GU10 Fire rated LED downlights
Discussion
after spending £600 on phillips hue gu10 lights I've realized that they don't fit in my existing fire rated downlights which look like this:
[IMG/]http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/Philips-Zadora-Alu-Fire-Rated-Led-Downlights-thumb.jpg[/IMG]
the cutout of my existing holes is 65mm
and I require a fitting with a height of 100-105mm to give me enough clearance to fit the phillips hue bulbs ( can't be any higher than this because there are beams in the way)
I've had a good search on the internet but with no success, can anyone here help?
[IMG/]http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/Philips-Zadora-Alu-Fire-Rated-Led-Downlights-thumb.jpg[/IMG]
the cutout of my existing holes is 65mm
and I require a fitting with a height of 100-105mm to give me enough clearance to fit the phillips hue bulbs ( can't be any higher than this because there are beams in the way)
I've had a good search on the internet but with no success, can anyone here help?
We would not advocate fitting GU10 LEDs into fire rated fittings. Reason being is that said fittings are more sealed thus significanlt reduce the available airflow required to circulate the already smaller than ideal heat sinks on the lamps themselves.
Is there a particular reason these fittings need to be fire rated?
Is there a particular reason these fittings need to be fire rated?
E36GUY said:
We would not advocate fitting GU10 LEDs into fire rated fittings. Reason being is that said fittings are more sealed thus significanlt reduce the available airflow required to circulate the already smaller than ideal heat sinks on the lamps themselves.
Is there a particular reason these fittings need to be fire rated?
ah!Is there a particular reason these fittings need to be fire rated?
well, the existing fittings in my apartment (new build completed last november) are all fire rated so I thought it'd be a good idea to keep it in line with that (it's a high rise and the last thing I'd ever want would be a fire here)
if you can provide a safe alternative i'm all ears
The_Burg said:
Surely any LED lamp kicks our way less heat then a halogen bulb?
If they are rated at around 10% of the halogen equivalent then the heat output should be 10% too, or am I missing something?
well they generate light in different ways so power/heat comparisons won't be linear, but it's irrelephant- the fire protection is to stop the spread of fire through the hole in the "fire barrier" AKA the ceiling, it's got nothing else to do with the light fitting itselfIf they are rated at around 10% of the halogen equivalent then the heat output should be 10% too, or am I missing something?
hairyben said:
The_Burg said:
Surely any LED lamp kicks our way less heat then a halogen bulb?
If they are rated at around 10% of the halogen equivalent then the heat output should be 10% too, or am I missing something?
well they generate light in different ways so power/heat comparisons won't be linear, but it's irrelephant- the fire protection is to stop the spread of fire through the hole in the "fire barrier" AKA the ceiling, it's got nothing else to do with the light fitting itselfIf they are rated at around 10% of the halogen equivalent then the heat output should be 10% too, or am I missing something?
WCZ said:
after spending £600 on phillips hue gu10 lights I've realized that they don't fit in my existing fire rated downlights which look like this:
the cutout of my existing holes is 65mm
and I require a fitting with a height of 100-105mm to give me enough clearance to fit the phillips hue bulbs ( can't be any higher than this because there are beams in the way)
I've had a good search on the internet but with no success, can anyone here help?
the cutout of my existing holes is 65mm
and I require a fitting with a height of 100-105mm to give me enough clearance to fit the phillips hue bulbs ( can't be any higher than this because there are beams in the way)
I've had a good search on the internet but with no success, can anyone here help?
He hasn't said this himself, but just take them out and use E36guy's integrated LED fittings. My electrician has just fitted a set, and can't quite believe how well made they are, nor the price Guy sold them for to us. All fire rated and IP65 for bathrooms etc. 50-60 or so more about to be ordered, and the builder stets that he'll be suggesting them for all his future projects.
I was not convinced by refitting everything with integrated LEDs, but the stuff has come on leaps and bounds, and these lights are streets ahead of GU10 LEDs (which I experimented with). Disruptive as you have to replace the whole fitting (we are doing a renovation, so less of an issue), but having seen them working, I'm now convinced. We bought some for the kitchen, to see if they were worth it before doing the rest of the house. They were.
controlled by LightwaveRF home automation dimmers, to be controlled by Indigo Domotics software running on a Mac Mini, in case that sort of thing is your bag.
I was not convinced by refitting everything with integrated LEDs, but the stuff has come on leaps and bounds, and these lights are streets ahead of GU10 LEDs (which I experimented with). Disruptive as you have to replace the whole fitting (we are doing a renovation, so less of an issue), but having seen them working, I'm now convinced. We bought some for the kitchen, to see if they were worth it before doing the rest of the house. They were.
controlled by LightwaveRF home automation dimmers, to be controlled by Indigo Domotics software running on a Mac Mini, in case that sort of thing is your bag.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 17th July 18:56
Do you happen to have a link to product so i can read up on this sounds intriguing.
Harry Flashman said:
I was not convinced by refitting everything with integrated LEDs, but the stuff has come on leaps and bounds, and these lights are streets ahead of GU10 LEDs (which I experimented with).
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 17th July 18:56
http://www.ecoledlight.co.uk/
We're using them. I was sceptical at first, and they are not cheap on list porice (although E36GUY will do a deal for PHers). But they are genuinely top quality products.
We're using them. I was sceptical at first, and they are not cheap on list porice (although E36GUY will do a deal for PHers). But they are genuinely top quality products.
Harry Flashman said:
http://www.ecoledlight.co.uk/
We're using them. I was sceptical at first, and they are not cheap on list porice (although E36GUY will do a deal for PHers). But they are genuinely top quality products.
thanks for that, i'm assuming you got something out of the zep6 range, do look nice. Might have to consider these and talk to E36Guy We're using them. I was sceptical at first, and they are not cheap on list porice (although E36GUY will do a deal for PHers). But they are genuinely top quality products.
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