Big Outbuilding In Neighbours Garden

[anonymous-user]

Just to be clear it's not the design, size or construction that I have a problem with; it's at the far end of the garden that we only use for dumping grass clippings anyway. Plus as said above, when finished at least it's not going to be a wall of concrete peeking over the fence.

Where I think there might be an issue - and a few of you have confirmed my suspicions, is it's too big to be that close.

I'll get my facts straight and pop round for a friendly word. If it all kicks off I'm not worried as I'm a powerfully built company director and my wife is handy with frozen sausages and a hammer.

[Busa mav]

Before you go see him , as somebody has already suggested, look on the council web site and do a planning search.

They may have got planning approval within the last 3 years.

Easiest search is "your council name planning search"

[popeyewhite]

Mr_C said:

At least it looks nice and isn't a massive concrete and asbestos thing.

It looks awful. It would be worse if it was a massive concrete and asbestos thing. It's also too close to the OP's fence.

[anonymous-user]

I think some people have gone a little bit off topic.

To answer your question the building needs to be at least 1m from the boundary and if it is closer than 2m then it needs to be no higher than 2.5m. The building looks to be a dual pitch room so can be up to 4m high. If it is mono pitch it can only be 3m high.

It does look to be closer than 1m from the boundary if indeed the fence is on the boundary and if this is the case they are in breach of permitted development rights.

[magooagain]

It will be interesting to see what sort of roof is going on. It looks as though it may need some more chunky rafters to support the load ,which may make it higher.
He is taking the mick really by not having a chat about how close it is to your boundary.

[roofer]

Mr_C said:

At least it looks nice and isn't a massive concrete and asbestos thing.

He hasn't put the roof on yet....

[Busa mav]

MonkeyMatt said:

I think some people have gone a little bit off topic.

To answer your question the building needs to be at least 1m from the boundary .

There is no such requirement in PD allowances for an outbuilding , it can be built tight to the boundary if it is under 2.5m high.

[anonymous-user]

Busa mav said:

Before you go see him , as somebody has already suggested, look on the council web site and do a planning search.

They may have got planning approval within the last 3 years.

Easiest search is "your council name planning search"

Done that. The search turned up a previous application by them for a 2 storey extension which was rejected, and an appeal which was also rejected.

That's what caused the frostiness between them and the previous owners of our house.

[anonymous-user]

Busa mav said:

MonkeyMatt said:

I think some people have gone a little bit off topic.

To answer your question the building needs to be at least 1m from the boundary .

There is no such requirement in PD allowances for an outbuilding , it can be built tight to the boundary if it is under 2.5m high.

It's not under 2.5m high.

[anonymous-user]

magooagain said:

It will be interesting to see what sort of roof is going on. It looks as though it may need some more chunky rafters to support the load ,which may make it higher.
He is taking the mick really by not having a chat about how close it is to your boundary.

This is what annoyed us. A polite word beforehand would have worked wonders. Now we simply think they are taking the piss.

[Busa mav]

abitlikefiennes said:

Busa mav said:

MonkeyMatt said:

I think some people have gone a little bit off topic.

To answer your question the building needs to be at least 1m from the boundary .

There is no such requirement in PD allowances for an outbuilding , it can be built tight to the boundary if it is under 2.5m high.

It's not under 2.5m high.

I know , I was just responding to MM's post

[Foppo]

To close to your fence no gap is there? If it annoys you to much you can always set it alight.>

[anonymous-user]

Busa mav said:

MonkeyMatt said:

I think some people have gone a little bit off topic.

To answer your question the building needs to be at least 1m from the boundary .

There is no such requirement in PD allowances for an outbuilding , it can be built tight to the boundary if it is under 2.5m high.

Not sure we I got the 1m from boundary bit from, must have dreamed that bit up! height stuff is correct though, I must double check in future on points I'm a bit rusty on

[anonymous-user]

Busa mav said:

abitlikefiennes said:

Busa mav said:

MonkeyMatt said:

I think some people have gone a little bit off topic.

To answer your question the building needs to be at least 1m from the boundary .

There is no such requirement in PD allowances for an outbuilding , it can be built tight to the boundary if it is under 2.5m high.

It's not under 2.5m high.

I know , I was just responding to MM's post

Sorry! But the 1m distance does come into play if the material is combustable, which this well and truly is.

[Busa mav]

abitlikefiennes said:

Sorry! But the 1m distance does come into play if the material is combustable, which this well and truly is.

we were talking about planning , which is totally different from building regs.

I outlined the difference and the restrictions in an earlier post.

That post surely can't be any clearer.

Busa mav said:

ok,

Planning.
Its over 2.5m high and it is within 2m of the boundary , It definitely needs planning approval.

Building regs.
Its less than 1m from the boundary , it needs to have the side wall in non combustible material , or be lined internally to provide 1/2 hr fire resistance.

It looks to be more than 30m2 , so it needs building regs anyway.

[wc98]

Corpulent Tosser said:

We are hoping to erect a summer house in our garden (Scotland) due to the size planning permission is required, it is 3m x 3m, from memory a 8' x 6' shed which is being replaced by the summerhouse is about as big as you can erect without permission.

Additionally the summer house must be at least 1m from any boundary.

you sure ? my understanding is it is based on a percentage of the area of the plot ,unless you have a small garden i do not think you would require permission for a summer house unless it is a very big summer house. unfortunately the permitted development page on the scottish government site appears to be down at the moment .page deleted message on display.

[blade7]

bobtail4x4 said:

it looks delightful

It looks big enough to live in....

[anonymous-user]

Busa mav said:

abitlikefiennes said:

Sorry! But the 1m distance does come into play if the material is combustable, which this well and truly is.

we were talking about planning , which is totally different from building regs.

I outlined the difference and the restrictions in an earlier post.

That post surely can't be any clearer.

Busa mav said:

ok,

Planning.
Its over 2.5m high and it is within 2m of the boundary , It definitely needs planning approval.

Building regs.
Its less than 1m from the boundary , it needs to have the side wall in non combustible material , or be lined internally to provide 1/2 hr fire resistance.

It looks to be more than 30m2 , so it needs building regs anyway.

Yes, your post was clear and those points you gave are what I'm going to tell the neighbours - thank you.

From what i can tell from the posts so far it either falls foul of one or more planning regs and/or a building reg, so either way they need to have a sit down and rethink their plans.

[Andehh]

Ask them if you can stick a gutter on it & direct it back towards them, suggest large water butt or some such? That'd remove one problem/ Then look to put trellis on your fence some large plants?

[jason61c]

onomatopoeia said:

I think the metre from the boundary only applies if it constructed from combustible material.

If its within one meter of the boundary it needs building regs if its over a certain size.