Sheet vinyl kitchen flooringment floor

Sheet vinyl kitchen flooringment floor

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Paul Drawmer

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4,864 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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After the disaster with uncleanable porcelain tiles on our kitchen floor, I am looking for a replacement floor.

To save the hassle and cost of removing well laid porcelain tiles, is it feasible to lay sheet vinyl on top of them?
I know that the chances are that the grout lines will show through, but I was thinking that as long as I kept to a similar type of tiled pattern, the slight marks will be less obvious than if I put a plain sheet on top?

I'm thinking of Polyflor Secura or similar and would welcome any comments on any other similar products.

The flooring must be suitable for kitchen use, and easy to clean (ie with a mop and bucket).

JimbobVFR

2,679 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Every time I've seen this done its looked wk, of course I may have simply missed the several times it's done but not noticeable.

How about something else like the tile effect laminate you can get?

JONSCZ

1,178 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Paul,
I am sure people with more knowledge will be a long soon, but it sounds like you need something like this self leveling floor screed 1st. http://www.fosroc.com/product/show/cemtop-fm30
We recently used something similar on a concrete floor and it worked fine.
The advantage of the stuff above is that it says that the minimum thickness of the screed is only 2mm. So you could screed the whole area, or if the tiles that are down are perfectly flat, then possibly screed just the grout lines to level the entire floor. Without it, I am sure you'd see the grout lines through the new vinyl.
Just a thought and like I say, someone will no doubt come up with a better idea...!!

Paul Drawmer

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266 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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JimbobVFR said:
Every time I've seen this done its looked wk, of course I may have simply missed the several times it's done but not noticeable.

How about something else like the tile effect laminate you can get?
What convinced me was when I was standing in a client's kitchen and asked what floor tiles he'd used. It was vinyl sheet.

I do not believe any laminate is suitable for a kitchen or bathroom.

Paul Drawmer

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4,864 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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JONSCZ said:
Paul,
I am sure people with more knowledge will be a long soon, but it sounds like you need something like this self leveling floor screed 1st. http://www.fosroc.com/product/show/cemtop-fm30
We recently used something similar on a concrete floor and it worked fine.
The advantage of the stuff above is that it says that the minimum thickness of the screed is only 2mm. So you could screed the whole area, or if the tiles that are down are perfectly flat, then possibly screed just the grout lines to level the entire floor. Without it, I am sure you'd see the grout lines through the new vinyl.
Just a thought and like I say, someone will no doubt come up with a better idea...!!
I've got a feeling that this is what we'll have to do. Interesting that it will take foot traffic after an hour or two - makes the job more do-able. Self level screed one day, lay the floor the next.

Due to old knees, I can't do this stuff myself any more. So I'm doing some research before paying someone to a job that I have done in the past.

JONSCZ

1,178 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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You should also look at Karndean and Amtico or this stuff http://www.quick-step.co.uk/Articles/QuickStep-vin... All of which are suitable for kitchens and bathrooms (we've had Karndean in our kitchen for 10 years and it still looks like new).
Also, if Karndean designs appeal, then possibly this stuff (which is quite thick and 'loose lay', so you'd possibly get away with not even needing to screed the grouting...? http://www.karndean.com/en-gb/floors/range-overvie...

Matt_N

8,900 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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We are in the exact same predicament with our soon to be new house, whilst the tiles in the kitchen are only 3 years old, they're blue!

We want to lay a slate effect vinyl so it's a bit more forgiving for our little lad who'll be toddling around this time next year.

We had a quick chat with one floor fitter yesterday and he said that the above sort of screed would be needed to smooth the grount lines out otherwise over time the vinyl will sink into them, he did say though that if the tiles are good and flat you can get away with just screeding the grount lines.

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Iirc, your tiles were gloss faced ? Not sure how well any levelling compound would last on them, I suspect it would crumble in high wear areas ?

MrV

2,748 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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http://www.ardex.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductI...

Just do the grout lines in this and ready to lay the vinyl in an hour

Paul Drawmer

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4,864 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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@ MrV - brilliant, looks just the job.

@ roofer. They are not gloss, the whole problem was that they're too rough, like a sandtex finish - excellent non-slip, but couldn't be cleaned properly. They're getting darker as the months go by, even though I scrub them with a deck brush!. They're untreated and unglazed. (well 4 of the them are a matt glaze).

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Ahhh, sorry. Vaguely remember someone with odd lips and shiny white tiles.

seeby

1,807 posts

169 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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MrV said:
http://www.ardex.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductI...

Just do the grout lines in this and ready to lay the vinyl in an hour
Trump that with Ardex Feather Finish . Just do the grout lines ,have a cuppa, lay the floor.smile