Oak joinery & outdoor furniture
Discussion
Can anyone recommend a source of oak joinery - need bifold doors, gable glazing and several other doors.
Also in the market for an outdoor table (14 seater) and chairs
I've done the google searches but would prefer a recommendation if anyone has used a company(s) that they can vouch for
Many thanks
Also in the market for an outdoor table (14 seater) and chairs
I've done the google searches but would prefer a recommendation if anyone has used a company(s) that they can vouch for
Many thanks
For oak outdoor furniture I recommend Gaze Burvil. They've given up putting a finish on their furniture and just fume it now. Not cheap but then you know that argument.
http://www.gazeburvill.com/oakcollections/index.ht...
http://www.gazeburvill.com/oakcollections/index.ht...
loughran said:
For oak outdoor furniture I recommend Gaze Burvil. They've given up putting a finish on their furniture and just fume it now. Not cheap but then you know that argument.
http://www.gazeburvill.com/oakcollections/index.ht...
Funny, just been looking at their website and fallen in love with the oval Broadwalk tablehttp://www.gazeburvill.com/oakcollections/index.ht...
Have you bought from them?
foliedouce said:
loughran said:
For oak outdoor furniture I recommend Gaze Burvil. They've given up putting a finish on their furniture and just fume it now. Not cheap but then you know that argument.
http://www.gazeburvill.com/oakcollections/index.ht...
Funny, just been looking at their website and fallen in love with the oval Broadwalk tablehttp://www.gazeburvill.com/oakcollections/index.ht...
Have you bought from them?
I do however have clients/customers who have bought from them over the last 25 years and it seems to last very well.Early on they oiled (?) their furniture like everyone else but more recently they seem to be just fuming, that is exposing to ammonia in a controlled environment.
The thing with oak is that whatever you do to it, when you expose it to the elements, sooner or later it will turn a silvery grey. Fuming oak darkens the timber a bit and gives it an aged look, preparing it for a life outside.
I would say that if the price of what you want from them doesn't hurt too much, go for it... with the proviso that garden furniture never looks new for very long. At least furniture of this quality should age gracefully.
I do have a recommendation for oak bifolds as well but I'll have to get back to you about that.
loughran said:
No, that's the curse of making furniture for a living as I do, I have to make my own. I do however have clients/customers who have bought from them over the last 25 years and it seems to last very well.
Early on they oiled (?) their furniture like everyone else but more recently they seem to be just fuming, that is exposing to ammonia in a controlled environment.
The thing with oak is that whatever you do to it, when you expose it to the elements, sooner or later it will turn a silvery grey. Fuming oak darkens the timber a bit and gives it an aged look, preparing it for a life outside.
I would say that if the price of what you want from them doesn't hurt too much, go for it... with the proviso that garden furniture never looks new for very long. At least furniture of this quality should age gracefully.
I do have a recommendation for oak bifolds as well but I'll have to get back to you about that.
No wonder I fell in love with Gaze Burvill, the table and chairs I was looing at are £48k!!!! When the sales guy sent me the email I thought the decimal point was in the wrong place and at £4800 it seemed reasonable value, but 48 thousand pounds for an outdoor table and chairs is crazy. I do however have clients/customers who have bought from them over the last 25 years and it seems to last very well.Early on they oiled (?) their furniture like everyone else but more recently they seem to be just fuming, that is exposing to ammonia in a controlled environment.
The thing with oak is that whatever you do to it, when you expose it to the elements, sooner or later it will turn a silvery grey. Fuming oak darkens the timber a bit and gives it an aged look, preparing it for a life outside.
I would say that if the price of what you want from them doesn't hurt too much, go for it... with the proviso that garden furniture never looks new for very long. At least furniture of this quality should age gracefully.
I do have a recommendation for oak bifolds as well but I'll have to get back to you about that.
We have an 18 seater solid oak board table in the office which we had bespoke made for £5k, admittedly it doesn't have the detailing of the Gaze Burvill stuff, but that price differential is ridiculous.
If you clients buy this stuff, you must have some very wealthy clients!!
Thanks, I would appreciate the bifold referral, although not if it's at Gaze Burvill prices
Some people have trouble getting rid of their money. My recommendation for bifolds would be Centor. Nicely made with effective privacy and sun blinds that slide across from side to side. I don't know anything about the door market, there are probably dozens/ hundreds of companies out there but these worked nicely and were well clad in oak. hornetrider said:
foliedouce said:
No wonder I fell in love with Gaze Burvill, the table and chairs I was looing at are £48k!!!!
Jesus Christ.Thing to remember, I know oak is a lovely timber, but it ain't really the best for out door use. If the UK could have grown or sourced something like Teak or Iroko when ships were built of wood, we'd have been building them out of those
I have no idea how these guys furniture weathers, but generally oak can end up going black when weathered.
loughran said:
Some people have trouble getting rid of their money. My recommendation for bifolds would be Centor. Nicely made with effective privacy and sun blinds that slide across from side to side. I don't know anything about the door market, there are probably dozens/ hundreds of companies out there but these worked nicely and were well clad in oak. As above, oak isn't really suitable for use in an external environment, it's very prone to movement.
A company I used to work for supplied the doors to a large Hertfordshire house and the developer insisted on solid oak front entrance doors - against our advice. They looked fantastic once made aand even better once they had been fitted, but 2 months later on showing their first client around the finished build the doors had seized due to their exposure to the elements. This was even after being treated correctly (apparently).
A company I used to work for supplied the doors to a large Hertfordshire house and the developer insisted on solid oak front entrance doors - against our advice. They looked fantastic once made aand even better once they had been fitted, but 2 months later on showing their first client around the finished build the doors had seized due to their exposure to the elements. This was even after being treated correctly (apparently).
While there may be better choices than oak for exterior applications it's still a good choice, you could certainly do a lot worse! Let's not forget what all of these 15 / 16th century houses are predominately made of!
Oak like all timbers is a natural materials that will move when exposed to moisture. Choice of how the timber has been dried and stored is just as important choosing the most suitable species in the first place.
Oak like all timbers is a natural materials that will move when exposed to moisture. Choice of how the timber has been dried and stored is just as important choosing the most suitable species in the first place.
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