Buying a New Build..... and part ex!

[Dan_1981]

Rosscow said:

Plots 7 and 13 look better bets?

I'll be honest, road noise would be a big worry for me.

7 is sold.

13 is an east facing garden - thought that would be worst of all from a sunshine point of view?

I've visited site, road noise is obviously noticeable but the site is well screened by large trees and is not as bad as I expected.

[Zippee]

Dan_1981 said:

7 is sold.

13 is an east facing garden - thought that would be worst of all from a sunshine point of view?

I've visited site, road noise is obviously noticeable but the site is well screened by large trees and is not as bad as I expected.

Go back in the middle of the night when there is no other ambient daytime noise and listen - sit in your car, windows open and close your eyes as if trying to sleep as I reckon you'll certainly notice it then

[Zippee]

Dan_1981 said:

Zippee said:

Dan_1981 said:

I like this house: http://www.harronhomes.com/find-a-home/derbyshire/...

However its at the top of our budget, and there are only three on the site - they all have North or east facing gardens - bit of a deal breaker.

Our current house (not a new build this time - we learnt - has a directly north facing garden and apart from directly behind the house it is bathed in sun all day, from the right hand side when the sun rises, the whole garden as it moves across the front and the sun streams over the roof, to the other side when the sun sets. In the winter when the sun is a lot lower it is less but still gets a fair share. This is in a garden 40' deep.

That's interesting.....

This is the site plan:

http://www.harronhomes.com/find-a-home/derbyshire/...

The Ingleton we'd be interested in would be plot number 15.

The garden runs NNW. Don't know how long the garden is,

assume we'd get sun in the morning from the east until it went behind the house, then if high enough we'd get it at the top of the garden. However then we'd suffer from the shadow of plot 14 until the sun moved past that house - which would be early evening?

To give you an idea this was taken in June last year mid afternoon and the sun was pretty much directly at the front of the house;

[Dan_1981]

Thanks for the above.

Have decided the Ingleton is probably pushing our budget a little too much - so are now very seriously considering a Settle

http://www.harronhomes.com/find-a-home/derbyshire/...

Plot number 35 is coming available shortly and we are now very very tempted to go for it.


Does anyone know if it possible to identify which houses have been earmarked as "affordable" from either the planning application or other means?

[andburg]

I'd suggest not enough homes to require one as they are generally small 2 up 2 down terraces which don't seem to appear on plan.

[hornetrider]

Dan_1981 said:

Thanks for the above.

Have decided the Ingleton is probably pushing our budget a little too much - so are now very seriously considering a Settle

http://www.harronhomes.com/find-a-home/derbyshire/...

Plot number 35 is coming available shortly and we are now very very tempted to go for it.


Does anyone know if it possible to identify which houses have been earmarked as "affordable" from either the planning application or other means?

I wouldn't imagine you'd have unsavoury types in a 4 bed development - have you asked the developer? When we were looking at a new build they were fully aware of which properties were going to be 'affordable'.

35 is a good plot. 32 looks to have a marginally bigger garden for the same house type if it's still available.

[Risotto]

I'd agree that new builds are infinitely more efficient than their predecessors. Most are better built too. Why must they all look the same though? Local vernaculars seem to have fallen by the wayside and anyone shown a photo of a new build would be hard pushed to say where in the country it was.

Aside from the issue of scale (4 tiny beds when 3 bigger ones would be more appropriate) my main problem with most new builds is that any individuality or privacy they may have is lost when they're built in such close proximity to so many others that are all the same. They attract the same sort of people, who do the same sort of jobs and send their kids to the same school and go to the same places on holiday.

There's no variety, no mix of established families and new residents, no old people, no history to the place. You feel like you're living in a television advert - everything is new, everyone is average age, earning average money, with an average family.

To some extent these issues would have been common to any Victorian terrace when they were new, but the passage of time creates variety. I suspect that in time, some of these new estates will become more interesting places to live but at the moment, I don't have the urge to buy into one.

Why anyone would want to live in a place exclusively populated with other people just like them, I've no idea.

[jonah35]

I'm the only chap that likes new build.

A bit like buying a new car. I'd prefer new to a kitchen, bedroom, bathrooms that have been used before.nthe layout is good, nhbc warranty, more insulated.

However price often goes down before it goes up and the parking is the issue.

I prefer having neighbours close by, more of a community feel but parking is bad so a double drive is a good idea.

Also, people buying tend to be in similar late twenties, thirties age bracket with professional jobs. Arguably a good thing in my opinion.

[cptsideways]

jonah35 said:

I'm the only chap that likes new build.

A bit like buying a new car. I'd prefer new to a kitchen, bedroom, bathrooms that have been used before.nthe layout is good, nhbc warranty, more insulated.

However price often goes down before it goes up and the parking is the issue.

I prefer having neighbours close by, more of a community feel but parking is bad so a double drive is a good idea.

Also, people buying tend to be in similar late twenties, thirties age bracket with professional jobs. Arguably a good thing in my opinion.

lol you might want to check if your neighbours actually have a job at all first.

[0000]

My new build estate is half retired people - some of whom even play golf together they're so old - and some of the others aren't very far off retirement. There's only one couple younger than us (33) apart from the affordable housing lot around the corner. There's a few kids and one baby. A Ford Fiesta and an Audi R8.

I work from home mostly, so I imagine everyone thinks I'm the one without a job.

We weren't looking for a new build, but after a vendor pulled out three times we decided to spare ourselves the hassle and buy from someone we knew wanted to sell. Genuinely not sure now that we would ever buy anything other than a new build again.

[Dan_1981]

Bit of a bump on this one.

Still looking at new builds on this development.

32 & 35 have been released.

http://www.harronhomes.com/find-a-home/derbyshire/...

Both have SW facing gardens, anything to choose from other than the garden size?


Other than this - how far can you push new build developers on freebies / upgrades etc?

[KTF]

32 for me as the shape of 35 is just odd.

Keep asking them for stuff/discounts until they say no

[Dan_1981]

Well..... done deal.

Dunno if there is any interest in a how to buy a new build thread or not?


We've purchased - due to get the keys next February.....

[Welshbeef]

We've done the new house (ish) and old.

Old is so much better vastly bigger garden by a factor of 8 currently for our place.
Proper off road parking for multiple cars v limited
Garage where it can house a car work benches either side and have the doors open v nearly touching he wall one side then squeeze out the other.
We couldn't do a loft conversion in it without massive loft truss changes v dead simple
Internal walls solid brick v not.
Bigger rooms and thankfully in the summer much cooler house.
Proper fire places v electric fire

Unless we built it new ourselves is always go old and ideally really old and for all the character that brings.

[russ_a]

Dan_1981 said:

Well..... done deal.

Dunno if there is any interest in a how to buy a new build thread or not?


We've purchased - due to get the keys next February.....

Hi Dan,

Did you get a good deal for the part-ex?

Cheers

Russ

[KTF]

Dan_1981 said:

Well..... done deal.

What plot did you go for and did they throw in any extras?

[Dan_1981]

Our house has been on the market since March - was on the market at £125k, had had an offer recently at £119500 but they wanted a quick deal, and we hadn't found anywhere else.


The part ex they've given us £120k for and put it straight back on the market at £114,995

Extras wise we got:

Carpets & flooring throughout.
integrated appliances
legal fees paid on sale & purchase
stamp duty paid.

All in all we were happy with the deal.

[Welshbeef]

Dan_1981 said:

Our house has been on the market since March - was on the market at £125k, had had an offer recently at £119500 but they wanted a quick deal, and we hadn't found anywhere else.


The part ex they've given us £120k for and put it straight back on the market at £114,995

Extras wise we got:

Carpets & flooring throughout.
integrated appliances
legal fees paid on sale & purchase
stamp duty paid.

All in all we were happy with the deal.

You do know that means there was a lot of fat in the property you bought don't you?

[Dan_1981]

Welshbeef said:

Dan_1981 said:

Our house has been on the market since March - was on the market at £125k, had had an offer recently at £119500 but they wanted a quick deal, and we hadn't found anywhere else.


The part ex they've given us £120k for and put it straight back on the market at £114,995

Extras wise we got:

Carpets & flooring throughout.
integrated appliances
legal fees paid on sale & purchase
stamp duty paid.

All in all we were happy with the deal.

You do know that means there was a lot of fat in the property you bought don't you?

I'd assumed it meant I caught them with their guard down, had the work experience girl in the office, and managed to get them to sell the house at a loss.

[Cogcog]

We part ex'ed my in-laws house in 2011. The builder then struggled to sell the house and sold it for about £20k less than they gave us. But on the other side we got little or no discount. I managed to get £10k off and £2,500 against flooring on £670k house. Neighbours managed to get £30k-£40k off as cash buyers. I would not part ex unless I had to or really didnt want to lose the new place (as we did).

I used Brickickers to snag the place, best money I ever spent as the builders had delayed and fought doing the snagging all the way until Brickickers report was delivered.