Pond water green algae

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EggsBenedict

1,770 posts

175 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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tharriso said:
Last week I added a massive 72w uv clarifier. It has made no difference at all.

Any pond experts got advice for this?
A week's not long enough to wait IME.

I'll write a bit more later, but have a bit of patience

Baldy881

1,333 posts

178 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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http://www.ukaps.org/forum/threads/little-shop-of-...

Also on same forum, lots of good reading wink

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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An appropriately powerful UV unit matched to an appropriate flow rate will kill algae, as well as flocculating them, but if you don't have effective solids removal you'll just be pumping the stuff round in circles as it rots - and if your water remains murky, the exposure of remaining live cells to the UV as it passes through the tube is going to be reduced and may not be able to overcome the rate it is reproducing at.

A 2m head is quite high - a lot of pumps will lose a lot of output at that sort of height. Most manufacturers supply a table of output against height.

myvision

1,946 posts

137 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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RichB said:
That's what known as a canister filter/pressurised filter and generally they are now considered as good as the open gravity filters however because you can bury them that are popular. I have a 6,500 ltr pond with koi, goldfish, tench and orfe and MrsB more or less insisted on a canister filter that could be hidden. For 6,500 ltrs I bought the Oase 30,000 filter on the basis that you should double the number if the pond is in sun and double it again if it has koi. And, even with that size filter I struggle with murky water. The other problem I have is that I can't have oxygenators or much plant life because the koi just eat it. They will polish off 25 quids worth of elodia in a few days, and that's an expensive salad bar! IF you don't have koi I would chuck in tons of elodia and hornwort.
Have you thought about an air pump?

http://www.absolute-koi.com/cat3.html

tharriso

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108 posts

126 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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otolith said:
A 2m head is quite high - a lot of pumps will lose a lot of output at that sort of height. Most manufacturers supply a table of output against height.
Do you measure it from the pump to the highest point out of the water? Or from the surface to the highest point above water?
The pump is about 1m submerged and filter is 1m above the water.

RichB

51,595 posts

285 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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myvision said:
RichB said:
That's what known as a canister filter/pressurised filter and generally they are now considered as good as the open gravity filters however because you can bury them that are popular. I have a 6,500 ltr pond with koi, goldfish, tench and orfe and MrsB more or less insisted on a canister filter that could be hidden. For 6,500 ltrs I bought the Oase 30,000 filter on the basis that you should double the number if the pond is in sun and double it again if it has koi. And, even with that size filter I struggle with murky water. The other problem I have is that I can't have oxygenators or much plant life because the koi just eat it. They will polish off 25 quids worth of elodia in a few days, and that's an expensive salad bar! IF you don't have koi I would chuck in tons of elodia and hornwort.
Have you thought about an air pump?

http://www.absolute-koi.com/cat3.html
Yep - got one... smile

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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tharriso said:
Do you measure it from the pump to the highest point out of the water? Or from the surface to the highest point above water?
The pump is about 1m submerged and filter is 1m above the water.
Surface to outlet. 1m is a lot more reasonable.

Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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I think something like Canadian pond weed is the answer as others have said. In order to get the nutrients from all the fish crap out of the system.

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Ideally, you want another shallow pond through which you pump the water, fill it with gravel and plant it with reeds, iris, watercress, etc.

Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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otolith said:
Ideally, you want another shallow pond through which you pump the water, fill it with gravel and plant it with reeds, iris, watercress, etc.
Ah, an outdoor equivalent of a refugium. Like it. I wonder if you could even have a bog garden as that function? I've always fancied having a bog/marsh garden ( for flag Iris etc ).

myvision

1,946 posts

137 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Here's my bottom drain working.

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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It is, pretty much, a bog garden! You only want an inch or two of water over several inches of gravel. We used to eat the watercress (it's emergent above the water, so nothing to be squeamish about) but most of it went on the compost heap, it grows like nothing on earth!

tharriso

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108 posts

126 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Here is a couple of pics, hopefully I can show an improvement in a few weeks time.





RichB

51,595 posts

285 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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That doesn't look too bad to me, how clear do you want it?
Incidentally, are you sure that's 5000 ltrs?

W12GT

3,531 posts

222 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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RichB said:
That doesn't look too bad to me, how clear do you want it?
Incidentally, are you sure that's 5000 ltrs?
That was my first thought too. It looks like railway sleeper edging which would mean a maximum width of 8ft by 6 then the little corner of 2ft by 2ft. That equates to around 1500 litres per foot of depth.

How deep is it?

myvision

1,946 posts

137 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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OP where do you live it might be worth someone having a look to see if we can help.
I took a small pond spent a small fortune until I looked at koi websites and learnt the right way.
I now wouldn't change my setup for anything apart from some fine particles in the water.


myvision

1,946 posts

137 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Photos are screen grabs on my phone from a video I uploaded to YouTube.

Edited by myvision on Wednesday 1st July 07:29