Building reg costs

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Derek Chevalier

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3,942 posts

174 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Our plans here after many months have finally been approved. We've had a quote from the architect for Building Reg drawings which to me sound excessive - 3k for him and 2k for the structural engineer.

To get the roof designs through planning required some non standard roof angles, and there are a couple of beams required for the kitchen, but to me this seems too much, and I'm also worried that the design is going cost a fair amount to build. Am I being tight/paranoid?

V8RX7

26,917 posts

264 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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I paid £1200 for Building Drawings and £50/beam for a Structural Eng for a new build 5 bed house 2.5 yrs ago.


roofer

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212 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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I'm having an engineered frame, designed with calcs I'll draw section details for other elements myself. I'm using Competent Roofer scheme for the roof, one less inspection/ fee.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Sounds like a lot, we paid about £1200 for our drawings and the steel calcs by the engineer cost a few hundred. You may be mistaken in thinking you need a fully qualified architect, if you know what you want and it's a fairly standard traditionally built house a local bloke with good knowledge of the local planning set up and a relationship with the building inspector is sometimes better than an proper architect who will charge more but also give you other ideas you can't afford ;-)

If you're baulking st this then the cost of the buildings inspector and the labour charge of trademen is likely to give you insomnia!

jules_s

4,292 posts

234 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Building regs costs or production information?

It does look high for BR alone

Derek Chevalier

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174 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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jules_s said:
Building regs costs or production information?

It does look high for BR alone
It says "Prepare construction plans for each floor including sectional drawings", so assume this means production - will check...

mikebradford

2,525 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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London pricing?
Up north smile id be telling you the building regs element should be approx £1k for preperation and submission on your behalf
Obviously that doesnt include the fee payable to the local Authority
Irony being if the original planning drawings are of reasonable clarity , then you could get the building regs drawn up by someone non London based.

The £2k fee for the engineer seems steep as well, if it is as simple as all above ground calc required for steels etc.

Maybe i should start doing work in London and simply factor a days traveling, as their appears to be plenty of margin in the price of work

Anyway good luck

Derek Chevalier

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Tuesday 30th June 2015
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mikebradford said:
London pricing?
Up north smile id be telling you the building regs element should be approx £1k for preperation and submission on your behalf
Obviously that doesnt include the fee payable to the local Authority
Irony being if the original planning drawings are of reasonable clarity , then you could get the building regs drawn up by someone non London based.

The £2k fee for the engineer seems steep as well, if it is as simple as all above ground calc required for steels etc.

Maybe i should start doing work in London and simply factor a days traveling, as their appears to be plenty of margin in the price of work

Anyway good luck
Surrey pricing, which is probably not too far of!. I'm going to ask the architect round for a chat to clarify.

jules_s

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234 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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TBH its really quite easy to prove Building regs conformity, it's another matter to detail the materials together

Sounds like you may be being offered the latter; which is a good thing

Derek Chevalier

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Tuesday 30th June 2015
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jules_s said:
TBH its really quite easy to prove Building regs conformity, it's another matter to detail the materials together

Sounds like you may be being offered the latter; which is a good thing
OK thanks. Will let you know

Derek Chevalier

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Saturday 8th August 2015
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I've been researching alternative quotes for structural engineers and it seems that all round here are snowed under. A potential alternative is to use an online calculation service by someone that is a member of the ISE and carries sufficient PI insurance - this may be feasible but would a structural engineer not be required to make one or more site visits (even if he were given sufficient drawings - including details of original foundations) - something that may be tricky if they aren't local?

camp freddie

255 posts

176 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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I've sent you a PM

Grandad Gaz

5,094 posts

247 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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I can recommend Camp Freddie. he sorted out some flitch beams for us a few years back smile

bobtail4x4

3,723 posts

110 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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Er Building notice?

Derek Chevalier

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Saturday 8th August 2015
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camp freddie said:
I've sent you a PM
Didn't get it - will send you one!

mk1fan

10,525 posts

226 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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Not surprised the planning was difficult, that's quite an extension.

I wouldn't recommend using a Building Notice, unless you know all that is being done so that you can explain it on site.

Unless there is some major structural changes to the existing building then other than the box frame in the kitchen then the structural stuff is limited. You could choose to have a timber trussed roof. The design would be included in the cost.

Building Regs info for the rest would be pretty straight forward.

Full construction information - that is drain runs, electrical layouts, cabinet locations - is going to cost. As it should because its a fair lump of work.

I would probably ask £900 to add the Building Regs info to the existing drawings - including talking through what you require. On top of that there would need to be the structural calcs for any steel work. Would be enough info for a builder to price but you would still need to agree electrical arrangements, cabinet layouts, decoration and other finishes.

bobtail4x4

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110 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Its hardly a complicated extension, a half decent builder will sort it easily,

ok you need calcs for the beams but a couple of hundreds not thousands needed.