Bastarding B&Q - thieving scumbags.

Bastarding B&Q - thieving scumbags.

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JM

3,170 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Neil - YVM said:
JM said:
BoostMonkey said:
Whats the best/easiest way to get a trade card?
I work in construction but for a large contractor, is there anyway to piggy back on that to get one?
For B&Q or Screwfix, just put the name as 'BoostMonkey Builders' (for example) and use your home address. They don't (as far as I know) cross reference it to anywhere, and probably don't care that you are not actually a builder. No problem paying with cash or a card in your own name.
For a normal screwfix account they don't do any checks, but for their trade account they will want to confirm your business or professional trade accreditation.
From memory they wanted Ltd company number , VAT No, letterheading and Website address.
Is the trade account a credit account?

Or does it have any perks?


Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

200 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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JM said:
Is the trade account a credit account?

Or does it have any perks?
They offer a Plumbfix or Electricfix account which is just like the basic account, but usually offers a seperate trade counter, so you don't have to wait as much, plus you get slightly lower costs.

There is also a Trade card option which then offers credit account facilities.

blueg33

35,987 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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B&Q is the only shop I know that is full of stuff and never has the item I need!

jshell

11,032 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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blueg33 said:
B&Q is the only shop I know that is full of stuff and never has the item I need!
You'll hate Homebase then. I go to Homebase as it's local, then shake my head and run over to BandQ.

blueg33

35,987 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jshell said:
blueg33 said:
B&Q is the only shop I know that is full of stuff and never has the item I need!
You'll hate Homebase then. I go to Homebase as it's local, then shake my head and run over to BandQ.
Ihe opposite where I live, Homebase has half the floor area of B&Q but has more useful stock, unless I want plumbing stuff

bakerstreet

4,766 posts

166 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Can't stand Homebase. Always amazed its still in business. tools, timber and paint are usually much more expensive than B&Q and others. Both of the Homebase stores near me are always quiet and if there are people in there, they are usually retired types pottering about. Hardly ever see any trades in there. If they are, I'm guessing they are desperate!

Screwfix is good on price, but to be honest it can be incredibly slow and you have to remember to check what you want is in stock before you leave the house otherwise you could wait 10 minutes in the queue of angry trades people and discover they haven't got what you want.

Got no sympathy with the OP. If you want something cheaper, do you research and buy online so you have time to get the products delivered smile


iSore

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4,011 posts

145 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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I forgot to update this: I did go back a couple of days later and got refunded on some of it. Whilst we were there, the Mrs and I had a mosey around the garden centre bit, against my better judgement. I had to laugh at £4.50 for some cheap and nasty yellow 'duck' watering can that probably cost about 12p to make. The plants were half dead and the cost of those long plastic troughs - £9 each? fk off!

A proper garden centre such as Wentworths up near Doncaster has always been the best place for that stuff. You don't mind paying as you as you feel you aren't being so obviously ripped off for sub standard junk.

Chrisgr31

13,488 posts

256 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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We used to have a Payless and that was truly useless. I bought some new screw fixings for a door, then realised I needed a super large crosshead screwdriver to put them in with. Only issue being they didnt sell the screwdriver.

Payless and Homebase both went over to selling a reduced line of DIY mateials and an increased line of crap self assembly furniture. It was no surprise that Payless failed.

On the issue of prices in Screwfix v B and Q there is a huge difference in rental costs between a B and Q and a Screwfix, the former potentially being 10 times as much per sq ft and this then impacts business rates too. The B and Q's then have a much larger floor area, greater numbers of staff, probably a higher stock loss rate etc so the costs of operating them will be far higher.

Personally I use our local independent although its a new start and therefore doesnt sell individual screws and its not an aladins cave as many of the traditional independents are. However they cannot do the same deals that B and Q and Homebase can do on paint etc,

blueg33

35,987 posts

225 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Not sure thst the title of this thread is fair. After all they are not thieving, the prices are marked, the decision to part with money is with the customer.

Edited by blueg33 on Friday 31st July 20:59

iSore

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4,011 posts

145 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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blueg33 said:
Not sure thst the title of this thread is fair. After all they are not thriving, the prices are marked, the decision to part with money is with the customer.
You could say the same about Tescos, and they are inexorably being flushed down the toilet by Lidl and Aldi. It's because it's now clear they've been robbing the customer for decades and the truth is slowly dawning.

The reason they can get away with blatant robbery is because there is no real competition. All it takes is for some serious opposition to show what thieving bds B&Q are, and to put them out of business. Alas, not for a while I fear.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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iSore said:
The wife's just come back from B&Q having purchased:

Two 750mm tins of exterior gloss.
Two small door knockers (we've had both old wooden doors replaced with new ones)
Two black anodised house numbers.





78 bding quid. FFS!!

The last two are, of course, the cheapest, nastiest, lowest quality rubbish to come out of China and I wouldn't give you £5 for all of it combined. It's utter st. She hasn't learned - the B&Q garden furniture bought last year is rusting like an Alfasud in a salt mine. Utter fking rubbish.

Now, like many, I have kicked the major supermarkets into touch and now shop at Lidl and Aldi. This is after years of brand snobbery, and finally realising that shopping anywhere else is just pissing money away.

Is it not about time an Aldi style DIY chain came to the UK and put these fkers out of business? I've half a mind to take this st back to the shop, get a refund and just find a decent ironmongers but I don't have time to fart at the moment.

Edited by iSore on Wednesday 22 July 19:55
I think my wife spent about 3x that on a door knocker & knob, which are nice, but.....

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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blueg33 said:
After all they are not thriving,
Oh I dunno, the prices they charged the OPs other half they seem to be doing well!







smile

blueg33

35,987 posts

225 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Spudler said:
blueg33 said:
After all they are not thriving,
Oh I dunno, the prices they charged the OPs other half they seem to be doing well!







smile
I meant thieving but I can't type on this stupid touch key pad.

DCheeseman

16 posts

106 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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The chap a few posts previous hit the nail on the head. Pretty much you are paying for the fact when everywhere else is shut and you're half way through a job you can jump in your car, head down to b and q and get what you need. Unfortunately that kind of thing always costs a premium. If i ran my business and operated with similar opening times I'd no doubt have to increase my mark up too.

ladderino

728 posts

140 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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iSore said:
blueg33 said:
Not sure thst the title of this thread is fair. After all they are not thriving, the prices are marked, the decision to part with money is with the customer.
You could say the same about Tescos, and they are inexorably being flushed down the toilet by Lidl and Aldi. It's because it's now clear they've been robbing the customer for decades and the truth is slowly dawning.

The reason they can get away with blatant robbery is because there is no real competition. All it takes is for some serious opposition to show what thieving bds B&Q are, and to put them out of business. Alas, not for a while I fear.
Hmm. I don't see it that way at all. IMO the reason Tesco is in the stter is because they've got caught in the unwanted middle ground between Aldi, Lidl and Asda vs. Sainsburys and Waitrose. Tesco doesn't provide a premium service, and their pricing strategy is no longer competitive against Aldi and Lidl, so why would consumers pay extra. This doesn't mean that they've been unethical in their business practices, and so wholly disagree that they've been robbing their customers.

There's a lot of competition against B&Q, many of which have been listed by others in this thread. However, not everyone that goes to B&Q is a serious DIY-er or trade professional, and these types are typically served better elsewhere. There are some consumers who just need a screwdriver or to buy a tin of paint once a year; B&Q fills the required role for them perfectly.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I am not a fan of b&q,but my mum wanted to have a look at some tiles and get some ideas. We found some tiles on special offer that she liked.popped back home ,measured up,and went back and bought them.
I could not get anywhere near the price elsewhere.so one happy customer here.I should say that I would not have gone there. Last two occasions I had been there they did not have what I wanted.but they were open until eight and the tiles are a good deal.50% off their normal price.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I had a blistering bargain at B&Q last week.

They're ditching Dulux Trade and swapping over to Valspar. My local superstore is the last one to go.

5 litres of tinted vinyl matt for £15. I pay nearer £40 at Dulux and that's with a trade discount.

I'm doing a full refurb at the moment so bought everything they had. Saved £400.