Kitchen layout

[Legend83]

Neil - YVM said:

This kitchen could easily be £20k.

An induction range will be £1.5- £4k alone, plus all the other appliances, if using quality brands, then £5k +
Assuming it will have a stone worktop of some type, the will be another £4-7K
Units - inframe, with some bespoke units, will be £5-8K.
plus installation, electrics, flooring, wall tiling.

Agreed!

I'll happily post the detailed quotes when I receive them.

[Wozy68]

Legend83 said:

Wozy68 said:

OP, do you mind I ask what the general cost was for the different designs, and does the prices include install. Not trying to pry but more from a proffesional point of view. If you prefer not too, no probs. It was just an interest.

Personally. I absolutly hate kitchen designs where a S/steel chimney extractor has wall cabinets virtually butting up to it. (I'd assume this isnt a bespoke kitchen company?) Sometimes it can't be helped, but generally I feel its a design no no, there are far better options, and if they have to be like that, its better to keep some distance from the extractor to the cabinets.

Wozy - apologies I never did answer your question. The quote for the first option was around £19k including appliance but not fitting. The second option is still a moving target but is likely to be in the region of £20k.

Re: the chimney hood - would it be better to make it a 600mm one rather than the 1000mm one that is currently included to give that gap?

Thanks for the info

At those prices I'd look for a small bespoke local company and see what they would charge you and the spec of their furniture. That seems quite a lot for not massive amoounts of kitchen.

Ref the chimney. I'd have at least 200M either side of a chimney hood before wall cabinets, or it looks to 'hemmed in' IMO.

[Legend83]

Wozy68 said:

Thanks for the info

At those prices I'd look for a small bespoke local company and see what they would charge you and the spec of their furniture. That seems quite a lot for not massive amoounts of kitchen.

The first two quotes were from suppliers who probably already match that description....

Wozy68 said:

Ref the chimney. I'd have at least 200M either side of a chimney hood before wall cabinets, or it looks to 'hemmed in' IMO.

200M?! I wish my kitchen was that big....

[singlecoil]

Legend83 said:

singlecoil said:

I missed that question until someone quoted it. Keep the wide hood, and make the wall units a bit narrower. 100mm less on the wall units would give you a 50mm gap each side, could make the wall units narrower still at the cost of less storage sapce.

SC - thanks for the comments. Agree with your point on cutting back the panels on the plinth to achieve a more streamlined look. Re: extractor - the problem is the Howden's units are standard size I think so might be easier just to buy a 900mm extractor instead (and actually that size extractor seems to give us more choice).

I figured that would be the case, just choose a pair of narrower wall units from within that range (if you decide to go with the Howdens stuff).

[Legend83]

Ok so here is a question.

The more I have read recently about solid wood worktops and the use of Sadolin and Osmo to water-seal them, the more I am thinking I would prefer to go this route over laminate (gives us the option of the Butler sink for one thing).

We plan to have Karndean for the kitchen floor in an oak-effect as this will permeate from the hall through into the kitchen.

So what is colour etiquette here? Should one look to match the shade of worktop to the floor as closely as possible or have one lighter / darker than the other?

[Harry Flashman]

I am watching this topic with interest, especially as the OP's kitchen layout looks very similar to mine, right down to the range cooker.

Also, as this is an interim house, rather than the forever house, and whoever buys it in 10 years' time will likely rip out whatever we have put in and replace, we are not going to spend £50k on a high-end kitchen. I have budgeted £7k for appliances (including washer and dryer. The only integrated appliance will be a dishwasher - all others free standing)

A few questions:

- recommendations for suppliers of stone worktops, anyone? Lady F is insisting on these. I would have been happy with timber, personally, despite it requiring a bit more maintenance.

- any comments about having the sink in the island, rather than on the main worktop (we are building up the floor anyway, so hopefully the plumbing should be OK)?

- the old kitchen is actually OK in terms of condition, but just a bit basic. However, I presume that I could re-use quite a few of the cabinets etc, rather than buying new ones? I intend to just replace doors. In reality, I could build the new kitchen with the old carcasses - but the island will need to be bespoke, not least as it will have a pillar going through the middle of it...

[Legend83]

Harry Flashman said:

- any comments about having the sink in the island, rather than on the main worktop (we are building up the floor anyway, so hopefully the plumbing should be OK)?

This was a big debate in our household but the end conclusion was we would rather have neither sink or hob on the island because:

- we didn't want dirty dishes inevitable piling up around a space ear-marked for food preparation and socialising

- we didn't want hot oil and sauces spitting at people as they sat at the bar.

Yes, it unfortunately means chef or washer-upper has their back turned to the rest of the room, but so be it.

[The Moose]

Granite Solutions Direct are pretty good on the stone side of things. Have used them several times in the past. Not always the cheapest (but within a few percent), however very efficient.

Speak with Lisa.

[alock]

Legend83 said:

Harry Flashman said:

- any comments about having the sink in the island, rather than on the main worktop (we are building up the floor anyway, so hopefully the plumbing should be OK)?

This was a big debate in our household but the end conclusion was we would rather have neither sink or hob on the island because:

- we didn't want dirty dishes inevitable piling up around a space ear-marked for food preparation and socialising

- we didn't want hot oil and sauces spitting at people as they sat at the bar.

Yes, it unfortunately means chef or washer-upper has their back turned to the rest of the room, but so be it.

This is the same conclusion we came to.

If we have friends around and we're socialising while preparing food, then more often than not we are doing something mundane on the hob like boiling potatoes or heating something in a pan. 99% of what happens on our hob is nothing we want to be the centre of attention between us and our guests.

[RobinOakapple]

Harry Flashman said:

I intend to just replace doors. In reality, I could build the new kitchen with the old carcasses - but the island will need to be bespoke, not least as it will have a pillar going through the middle of it...

There's lots of firms who specialise in supplying replacement doors, but I don't know of any that will do bespoke cabinets as well, so if there aren't any then that will mean getting a bespoke cabinet firm to supply the replacement doors as well, if you want them to match, which I should think would be more expensive.

[Harry Flashman]

Thanks for helpful responses, chaps.