Bit of an issue with neighbour...legal issue?

Bit of an issue with neighbour...legal issue?

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V8RX7

26,868 posts

263 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I think you're being perfectly reasonable, I'd fit a lock like the one below as it can be opened from both sides.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gatemate-2-50mm-Long-Thr...

Anyone who doesn't lock their gate in this age is a fool.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Did you discuss it and offer him a means of access? If not, from his perspective it could be seen as discourteous if not belligerent to lock the gate.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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What we have here is a failure to communicate.

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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L4CON said:
DocJock said:
Yes there is. See the post above yours.
Unless the neighbour starts kicking the gate down because he forgot the key or the code!
In which case the neighbour is in the wrong and OP sends him the bill for repairing his criminal damage.

Mike22233

822 posts

111 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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hairyben said:
Did you discuss it and offer him a means of access? If not, from his perspective it could be seen as discourteous if not belligerent to lock the gate.
Exactly
Can't believe you need a thread about it. Talk to the guy

toohangry

416 posts

109 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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V8RX7 said:
Anyone who doesn't lock their gate in this age is a fool.
Or lives somewhere nice/normal.

dirty boy

Original Poster:

14,698 posts

209 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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I'm fully prepared to back down here if people think I'm being unreasonable, which appears to be the consensus here.

I don't see that there's a lack of communication because all I've done is put things back as they were. He's then gone and kicked it in and then hammered them off the week after.

How am I meant to 'communicate' with a someone who's not even attempted to speak to me before taking actions? I don't think it's normal behaviour, I certainly wouldn't dream of it.



Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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How are you going to resolve this if you don't communicate?

You've blocked his access, he's committed criminal damage. You're both in the wrong. Go round for a chat, tell him you're proposing to secure the gate but will give him a key so he still has access. Job jobbed.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

164 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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The answer to your problems - double sided gate lock - JJonessecurityltd

Buzz84

1,145 posts

149 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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You might need to clear things up OP everyone is going on about a "lock" but from what I read in the original post is that is it just a side bolt that anyone can move across.

Like one of these?


If that's the case then being on garden side makes it slightly inconvenient if you come from the outside, but does not stop his right of access.
This is exactly how the gates work on my shared drive, as mine is on the top of the gate I can reach over, but my neighbor being shorter just comes out her side door to the drive and opens it that way

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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dirty boy said:
I'm fully prepared to back down here if people think I'm being unreasonable, which appears to be the consensus here.

I don't see that there's a lack of communication because all I've done is put things back as they were. He's then gone and kicked it in and then hammered them off the week after.

How am I meant to 'communicate' with a someone who's not even attempted to speak to me before taking actions? I don't think it's normal behaviour, I certainly wouldn't dream of it.
You don't see this? (part in bold)

How am I meant to 'communicate?' Erm, very easily. Go round apologise for the lock thing, say you didn't see it from his point of view. YOU didn't communicate with him in the first place, hence his reaction.

then discuss a new lock that can be opened from both sides, either with a key or whatever and make sure he has plenty of copies of the key etc.

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Perhaps the extension being built has pushed his nose out of joint in some way and this is simply a final straw for him?

V8RX7

26,868 posts

263 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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toohangry said:
V8RX7 said:
Anyone who doesn't lock their gate in this age is a fool.
Or lives somewhere nice/normal.
Because thieves only target cheap houses ???

roflbanghead

If you get someone to take you to a decent area - you will find the majority of the largest and most expensive houses have large locked gates on the front let alone the side !

dirty boy

Original Poster:

14,698 posts

209 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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ikarl said:
dirty boy said:
I'm fully prepared to back down here if people think I'm being unreasonable, which appears to be the consensus here.

I don't see that there's a lack of communication because all I've done is put things back as they were. He's then gone and kicked it in and then hammered them off the week after.

How am I meant to 'communicate' with a someone who's not even attempted to speak to me before taking actions? I don't think it's normal behaviour, I certainly wouldn't dream of it.
You don't see this? (part in bold)

How am I meant to 'communicate?' Erm, very easily. Go round apologise for the lock thing, say you didn't see it from his point of view. YOU didn't communicate with him in the first place, hence his reaction.

then discuss a new lock that can be opened from both sides, either with a key or whatever and make sure he has plenty of copies of the key etc.
I appreciate there was a lack of judgement on my part at reinstating the gate that was there before I moved in. However, is his reaction justified?

I'll speak to him. I've also had a call from my mate who's a solicitor and took a look at my deeds for me and said a bolt is absolutely fine as long as he has access to that bolt (which he does, the same way as I do) there's no problem and I'm well within my rights to secure the property.

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

212 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Given you can either fit a lock that is at an easier position to open for both of your benefit, or leave it as is and have a pissed off neighbour, I don't think it's a difficult decision.

Also, try talking to him.

dirty boy

Original Poster:

14,698 posts

209 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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shouldbworking said:
Given you can either fit a lock that is at an easier position to open for both of your benefit, or leave it as is and have a pissed off neighbour, I don't think it's a difficult decision.

Also, try talking to him.
I'll have a go.



Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
"Better to jaw jaw than war war"... yes


Winston S Churchill













Failing that, kick him in the goolies

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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I am confused. Does this gate allow access to a path that runs behind each persons garden (allowing each owner access to their garden) or does the gate allow access to his garden via your garden?

If its a communal gate that leads to a path to all gardens then it would annoy me if someone locked it as well (unless everyone agreed in advance and there was a combination lock or similar on it).

Dont the other neighbours use this gate as well?

essayer

9,067 posts

194 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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dirty boy said:
... a bolt is absolutely fine as long as he has access to that bolt (which he does, the same way as I do) there's no problem ...
A bolt on your side? So if he goes out and you bolt the gate how does he get back in?


227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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essayer said:
dirty boy said:
... a bolt is absolutely fine as long as he has access to that bolt (which he does, the same way as I do) there's no problem ...
A bolt on your side? So if he goes out and you bolt the gate how does he get back in?
He doesn't, hence the thread.