Our Victorian/industrial/canalside new build thread...

Our Victorian/industrial/canalside new build thread...

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Fascinating read, great build. I would love that location fora spot of river kayaking every evening

Just to echo other points:

6 years ago I put in a new benchmarx kitchen, foil wrapped. It has lasted brilliantly, and still gets comments on how good it looks. Fantastic value. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I'd have another in an instant.

And regarding the power - I've got 16 plug sockets in a 3x3 kitchen and they are mostly used. Everyone thought I was mental, but it's great having more than you need. Also (if you've covered this and I've missed it then apologies) I went for hardwired heat detectors rather than smoke detectors. Much more user friendly and they never misbehave.

Hard-Drive

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4,090 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Sorry, but time to lose my rag slightly now...

I've now had two letters, one some time ago from the local council, giving me a last chance to pay up for council tax or who to write to if I wish to appeal. I pointed out that the property at the time was devoid of windows, doors, gas, electricity, sanitation, furniture, building control signoff (yes, from you, the council) and of course totally devoid of anyone actually living there. I was begrudgingly given a few months grace.

Now I've just gone round to site and found a red letter from TV Licensing telling me that "Officers from the Enforcement Division have now been authorised to visit me" and in big letters (bullet pointed too) I now face "prosecution, court, and a fine of up to £1,000.00". Un-bloody-believable how efficient these people are for this kind of stuff!!!!!

roofer

5,136 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Hard-Drive said:
Sorry, but time to lose my rag slightly now...

I've now had two letters, one some time ago from the local council, giving me a last chance to pay up for council tax or who to write to if I wish to appeal. I pointed out that the property at the time was devoid of windows, doors, gas, electricity, sanitation, furniture, building control signoff (yes, from you, the council) and of course totally devoid of anyone actually living there. I was begrudgingly given a few months grace.

Now I've just gone round to site and found a red letter from TV Licensing telling me that "Officers from the Enforcement Division have now been authorised to visit me" and in big letters (bullet pointed too) I now face "prosecution, court, and a fine of up to £1,000.00". Un-bloody-believable how efficient these people are for this kind of stuff!!!!!
Bud, what you have created is a fantastic thing. Don't let the gold hat brigade take the shine off, just pen pushing arse holes who will never achieve what you have. Meet them with a grin, shoot them down.

Hard-Drive

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4,090 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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roofer said:
Bud, what you have created is a fantastic thing. Don't let the gold hat brigade take the shine off, just pen pushing arse holes who will never achieve what you have. Meet them with a grin, shoot them down.
Oh trust me, I won't let some piece of pathetic "process" and whoever dreamed it up take the shine off one little bit. But really, can't they start off with a "our records indicate this is a new property, if this is now lived in can we ask you to contact us to arrange payment", rather than the opening line being threats of "see you in court" letters in red ink!




Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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OpulentBob said:
And regarding the power - I've got 16 plug sockets in a 3x3 kitchen and they are mostly used. Everyone thought I was mental, but it's great having more than you need. Also (if you've covered this and I've missed it then apologies) I went for hardwired heat detectors rather than smoke detectors. Much more user friendly and they never misbehave.
How on earth do you use 16 sockets in a kitchen?! Assume you mean 8 doubles & not 16!! Heat detectors should be used in garages & kitchens, elsewhere you should use smoke detectors. Talking of detectors don't forget a CO alarm smile

craigthecoupe

697 posts

205 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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tv licencing is just a generic letter. we don't have a tv, and get them periodically. i've contacted them before and told them that i don't enjoy waking in the morning to find a letter based on no evidence informing me they'll see me in court. they just said ignore them. to which i said, no, just dont send them. three weeks later..... you see where this is going.
coincidentally, monday i was at home (we've just moved) and a knock at the door, and it's tv licensing. (first time ive ever seen them in 9 years of threatening letters) i explained we watch netflix, amazon prime etc he asked for my name and explained he'd come by again after the review of licensing at the end of the year. i asked him inside to have a look around, to which he replied "i'm supposed to, but don't worry about it"
needless to say, i'll be expecting my court appearance letter soon.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Dave_ST220 said:
How on earth do you use 16 sockets in a kitchen?! Assume you mean 8 doubles & not 16!!
16 available sockets in a mix of singles and doubles.

Fridge-freezer
Washing machine
Dishwasher
Extractor Hood (high level socket)
Microwave
Kettle
Toaster
Bell-ender
(Hob and oven hard-wired.)
2 x spare sockets in 3 x corners plus one spare on the far wall, and a low one behind the door in case I need a hoover plugged in/powering the emergency torch on the wall. Stick a speaker, phone charger for the Mrs, and maybe charge the hair clippers and you're ALMOST at the point of running out!

Like I said, everyone said I was silly/OTT, and the distribution board needed a new cable "on the ring" (?) to fit it all in but it's bloody lovely to not have to worry about.

Bedroom next. 2 poxy sockets currently. I'm thinking I need at least 8.

(Sorry for the hijack OP - BTW a shallow grave is a good place for TV license inspectors! wink )

Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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OpulentBob said:
16 available sockets in a mix of singles and doubles.

Fridge-freezer
Washing machine
Dishwasher
Extractor Hood (high level socket)
Microwave
Kettle
Toaster
Bell-ender
(Hob and oven hard-wired.)
2 x spare sockets in 3 x corners plus one spare on the far wall, and a low one behind the door in case I need a hoover plugged in/powering the emergency torch on the wall. Stick a speaker, phone charger for the Mrs, and maybe charge the hair clippers and you're ALMOST at the point of running out!

Like I said, everyone said I was silly/OTT, and the distribution board needed a new cable "on the ring" (?) to fit it all in but it's bloody lovely to not have to worry about.

Bedroom next. 2 poxy sockets currently. I'm thinking I need at least 8.

(Sorry for the hijack OP - BTW a shallow grave is a good place for TV license inspectors! wink )
Arh, I see. The recommended in a kitchen is 6 doubles by memory, appliances should be extra (hob & oven always on own circuit). You can never have enough sockets, even if half go unused you can bet a load of them get covered by furniture (maybe not in a kitchen!). Back OT....

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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We have 6 doubles in our tiny kitchen, with separate under counter, but switched above, sockets for main appliances.

With regards to TV license we had that at the start of our project, nothing ever came of it - there wasn't even a TV there.

skibum

1,032 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Same with the new place we have bought and are currently renovating. TV licence threat letter on the doormat. Opened, laughed and binned.

Oh and agree with sockets. We've gone for 7 doubles plus all the other stuff (fridge, microwave, oven, hood, dishwasher, wine cooler) to be socketed separately.


IanA2

2,763 posts

163 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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OpulentBob said:
Dave_ST220 said:
How on earth do you use 16 sockets in a kitchen?! Assume you mean 8 doubles & not 16!!
16 available sockets in a mix of singles and doubles.

Fridge-freezer
Washing machine
Dishwasher
Extractor Hood (high level socket)
Microwave
Kettle
Toaster
Bell-ender
(Hob and oven hard-wired.)
2 x spare sockets in 3 x corners plus one spare on the far wall, and a low one behind the door in case I need a hoover plugged in/powering the emergency torch on the wall. Stick a speaker, phone charger for the Mrs, and maybe charge the hair clippers and you're ALMOST at the point of running out!

Like I said, everyone said I was silly/OTT, and the distribution board needed a new cable "on the ring" (?) to fit it all in but it's bloody lovely to not have to worry about.

Bedroom next. 2 poxy sockets currently. I'm thinking I need at least 8.

(Sorry for the hijack OP - BTW a shallow grave is a good place for TV license inspectors! wink )
Add to that list:

Coffee grinder
Espresso machine
Ice cream machine
Bread machine
Radio
Tele
Fat fry chip maker thingy
Liquidiser
Juicer

A lot of sockets needed in a kitchen smile

richtea78

5,574 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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You don't need them all at the same time though

5potTurbo

12,548 posts

169 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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richtea78 said:
You don't need them all at the same time though
^^^ THIS, or you've no worktop left!

Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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This is PH, they will have 100m of diamond encrusted work top wink

TheBaj

169 posts

178 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Looks fantastic, great job.

Where did you get the garage flooring from in the end? I'm after something similar soon and yours looks really good.

Hard-Drive

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4,090 posts

230 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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TheBaj said:
Looks fantastic, great job.

Where did you get the garage flooring from in the end? I'm after something similar soon and yours looks really good.
They came from Endurance Mats in Coventry. I can't remember how much they ended up costing but it was a fair bit less than I'd originally expected. A few tips if you do it...

-I followed their advice on how much was needed but wasn't convinced...and I did end up needing another "row" of tiles, so might be worth buying more than you need and returning them
-They are bulky and heavy. I only just, and I do mean just, got all mine in the back of a 3 series estate, and it was pretty much on the bump stops for the journey home. A more suitable car/van might have been advisable...I'm local so I didn't want to pay the delivery charge!
-A big square, tape measure, chalk line and laser level were very useful for marking out
-Have a think/test before you start laying them. Start at the door end in the middle, plan ahead and make sure you don't end up in a corner with a little sliver to fill. Get your head around measuring the tiles compared to the floor area and "loosing" the interlocking but in your sums. Double garages do take a bit more thinking about too in terms of getting the doors right
-I'm sure I read somewhere "cut with a Stanley knife". Forget it. They are far more plastic than rubber. I used a cheapinsh hobby spec table saw, and it was absolutely invaluable for the job

I've been doing some work on a car in the garage already, and having a flat, clean, comparatively warm surface to work on that shrugs off oil stains etc is just brilliant, it's such a worthwhile thing to do to your garage.



Hard-Drive

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4,090 posts

230 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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More progress...really close now. Just want to move in!

Living room...engineered oak floor fitted, fireplace almost finished (bar the mantelpiece) and Pevex Bohemia X40 wood burner in. Bifolds work brilliantly opening out onto the patio.







Comms cabinet. Spent most of Easter doing this. 48 ports, 8 wires at the patch panel end, 8 wires at the outlet end, yes, 768 tedious terminations needing punching down...yawn...



Ensuite bathroom. Bit of an error with the paint choice, was supposed to be a grey colour turns out Dulux "Frosted Steel" has a real lilac tinge to it. Guess I'll be repainting that then!





French doors in master bedroom. And yes, the Juliette balcony is on the way!



Utility room...



...and kitchen, just about ready for some Smeggy goodness!





Stair bannister oiled...really glad we didn't paint it.



More to follow when it happens...last few weeks to go now!

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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That all looks really good. Have you got a target for moving in?

Your banisters/spindles look very similar to what we've just had fitted, and are in the process of painting. Was it Pete L who fitted them?

Hard-Drive

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4,090 posts

230 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Hopefully about 2 weeks off now. Nope, it wasn't him, however they are a standard Jeld-Wen item so probably very common.

chrisga

2,090 posts

188 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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It all looks really good. Reckon you'll be finished before us and you started with a field! Nice one. Sailing next Wednesday or too busy?