Death of buy-to-let: landlords wake up to Osborne's 150pc ta

Death of buy-to-let: landlords wake up to Osborne's 150pc ta

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daytona365

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1,773 posts

164 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Death of buy-to-let: landlords wake up to Osborne's 150pc tax yikes.......This is in the Daily Telegraph Re: Budget sees new punitive taxes on buy to let profits that could go past 100% ?!.............So will BTL collapse, or will rents rise to cover ?...Either way absolutely shocking and not what you'd expect from Conservatives....................Bestial !!

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Really? fking hell, sounds like someone wants to cool the housing market.

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

179 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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With the amount of 'part time landlords' i know personally, it may be an attempt to quash the numbers doing it. It is after all messing with the housing market and making it even more difficult for first time buyers as house prices rise due to all of the richer second home owners and them snapping up every property that needs a small amount of work.

Having said that post recession they have really tightened btl mortgage eligibility so i would be suprised if numbers of btl are growing at a huge rate anyway (there are plenty buying homes to let cash outright in this area though)

The housing market needs to cool off anyway.

Edited by Rick1.8t on Saturday 22 August 11:30

RegMolehusband

3,960 posts

257 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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What if you haven't bought-to-let but just let out your ex-marital home - do people like me get mopped up in this?

Horse Pop

685 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Rick1.8t said:
With the amount of 'part time landlords' i know personally, it may be an attempt to quash the numbers doing it. It is after all messing with the housing market and making it even more difficult for first time buyers as house prices rise due to all of the richer second home owners and them snapping up every property that needs a small amount of work.

Having said that post recession they have really tightened btl mortgage eligibility so i would be suprised if numbers of btl are growing at a huge rate anyway (there are plenty buying homes to let cash outright in this area though)

The housing market needs to cool off anyway.

Edited by Rick1.8t on Saturday 22 August 11:30
I buy this theory. Probably being done to get people on the ladder.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Inevitable, indeed long overdue. With the comedy interest rates set to continue we have two entire generations being tucked by each other's grandparents.

emicen

8,578 posts

218 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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daytona365 said:
Death of buy-to-let: landlords wake up to Osborne's 150pc tax yikes.......This is in the Daily Telegraph Re: Budget sees new punitive taxes on buy to let profits that could go past 100% ?!.............So will BTL collapse, or will rents rise to cover ?...Either way absolutely shocking and not what you'd expect from Conservatives....................Bestial !!
Any danger you could step off hammering the full stop key for a few seconds and link the article?

daytona365

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Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Sorry, really don't know how, but it's all there on the Daily Telegraph website.

Impasse

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241 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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We desperately need to raise more tax revenue, so hammering private landlords is an easy win. Not that many people will weep for the poor landlords having to pay more tax.

TooMany2cvs

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126 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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It isn't, of course, anything like a "150% tax"... All it is is saying "You can't count mortgage interest as an expense, once your income is past basic rate tax". Some landlords with big mortgages and low yields will find that turns their slim profit into a loss. This change was announced at the start of July, in the post-election budget.

It's silly season. Slow news month.

daytona365

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164 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Except for the people that want to rent somewhere, suppose they'll have to go to smelly hostels instead ?!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Oh dear. Those smart arse presenters on Homes Under The Hammer will take this badly..

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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It wont happen , this will be withdrawn or watered down before 2017, not that I am that bothered being that rare type of landlord who only carries a mortgage on my properties as a tax benefit, those that borrow a large amount of money to rent out a property have been attracted by the cheap interest deals that's what's at fault , a rise in interest rates will see most of them off.

Mind you ultimately the tenants will pay for this , if BTL landlords do sell up there will be less houses up for rent thus increasing demand.

RWD cossie wil

4,310 posts

173 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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I think most people will end up turning their BTLs into LTD company's, it's an absurd tax that would set a very dangerous precedent, ie taxing turn over not profit.

The housing crisis is down to the government not allowing enough planning for new homes & a huge population spike I. The last decade or so, bullying landlords won't help anyone.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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daytona365 said:
Except for the people that want to rent somewhere, suppose they'll have to go to smelly hostels instead ?!
there will allwayts be a rental market , but instead of the debacle that buy to let has become it will return to the traditional markets for rental ...

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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RWD cossie wil said:
I think most people will end up turning their BTLs into LTD company's, it's an absurd tax that would set a very dangerous precedent, ie taxing turn over not profit.

The housing crisis is down to the government not allowing enough planning for new homes & a huge population spike I. The last decade or so, bullying landlords won't help anyone.
and nothing to do with Brown;s raid on Pensions making Buy to let look attractive and certaing an army of amatuer property tycoons and huge numbers of bottom feeder letting agents charging thoudnas for less than 100 gbp of work at application.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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mph1977 said:
RWD cossie wil said:
I think most people will end up turning their BTLs into LTD company's, it's an absurd tax that would set a very dangerous precedent, ie taxing turn over not profit.

The housing crisis is down to the government not allowing enough planning for new homes & a huge population spike I. The last decade or so, bullying landlords won't help anyone.
and nothing to do with Brown;s raid on Pensions making Buy to let look attractive and certaing an army of amatuer property tycoons and huge numbers of bottom feeder letting agents charging thoudnas for less than 100 gbp of work at application.
Helped by the lack of council houses as well

daytona365

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164 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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How are those leaky borders doing ? This is THE ONLY issue of any importance facing this country. Hence this smoke and mirrors charade ? Imo.

Jasandjules

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229 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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charltjr said:
We desperately need to raise more tax revenue, so hammering private landlords is an easy win. Not that many people will weep for the poor landlords having to pay more tax.
Could try getting the likes of Amazon and Vodaphone etc to pay up?