First time refurbishment 1960's flat

First time refurbishment 1960's flat

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kiethton

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180 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I went with these ones:

http://www.doorsdirect2u.co.uk/index.php?route=pro...

fire door from the above link - they do the normal ones too but they were cheapest at DIY.com (B&Q)

http://www.diy.com/departments/2-panel-primed-smoo...

HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

180 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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kiethton said:
Pocket door is now installed and looks good and I've got all 5 door linings for £100 - can't believe I was going to be charged £1559 to do it as with the help of common sense and YouTube it wasn't actually that hard!
Very interested in the pocket door thing, wanting to do something similar in my place. Do you have some links to the system? How far does it cover?


kiethton

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180 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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HotJambalaya said:
Very interested in the pocket door thing, wanting to do something similar in my place. Do you have some links to the system? How far does it cover?
I used the Henderson kit from screwfix (they have various to suit the desired door), in my case the PDK3 system (door 1981 x 762), cost ~£150 from memory.

I had a gap of ~1700 for the wall and door, door kit requires basically 2x door width + a little, my track assembly header was about 1550 wide. Other models work on a different basis.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/henderson-pocket-door-pd...

The below shows how simple (ish) it is to install (clipping it into the mounting brackets is a little harder than it looks though! - making sure the tab is aligned properly)

https://youtu.be/h2A0qLkul94


kiethton

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180 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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And another weekend done thankfully gives some more progress.

The GF wasn't feeling too well sos didn't manage to get that much more done unfortunately, but, the electrician was in last Thursday to mark up all of the chases into all of the old walls for the Cat 5E, Power points, Sat points, coax etc leaving me to cut the chases in the old walls.





Typically I forgot to photograph anything else - far more chases cut in the bedroom!

Beyond this some walls have now been ply lined to hang the basin/rad's, the bathrooms are now fully fitted (1st fix plus) and I have even built out the under-sink shelving using marine ply so it is full strength, the pipework can be run to the basin counter prior to tiling.

Have had a call from the electrician who is back on-site and cracking on to ensure that first fix electrics will be done buy the end of the week. With a garage full of plasterboard and acoustic rockwool and 50% of the ceiling bulkheads left to put up I've got a lot to do! - I gave up drilling on Saturday after I'd melted the tip of my last bit (must have hit a steel support within the concrete) - picked up a few new concrete drill bits yesterday so can now continue later.

Hopefully it'll be in ok shape for a plasterer to be brought in from next week!

re. budget, I'm still below the magic £10k barrier (forecast £15-20k), the spend to date includes things like tools, appliances and PPE.



Only major things left are trades (electrician, heating, plastering and I think I'll get a pro to fit the kitchen), kitchen worktops then standard paint and finishes.

sealtt

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158 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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That's so much progress, enjoying watching your thread. I'm really impressed how much you've done for the money.

I've got loads to do to a house I'm remodelling and seem to spend a fortune on everything. I spent £20k just doing job 1 which was a front wall & electric gate!! Any tips for how to keep costs down, especially when finding guys to do the work?

kiethton

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180 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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sealtt said:
That's so much progress, enjoying watching your thread. I'm really impressed how much you've done for the money.

I've got loads to do to a house I'm remodelling and seem to spend a fortune on everything. I spent £20k just doing job 1 which was a front wall & electric gate!! Any tips for how to keep costs down, especially when finding guys to do the work?
Thanks,

I'm a little particular perhaps but when it comes to sourcing the big bits e.g. kitchen I read as many reviews as possible to compare the relative quality of each supplier. I order, plan and play each supplier off against each other (if wren etc) but in actual fact it was DIY kitchens that I preferred. Chose to order when there is a "sale" on (you can always delay delivery) using quidco for cashback where possible. Almost everything has come from online.

Other big bits e.g. basins picked up based on reviews for quality (at a price) and then dressed up with branded taps when on sale/offer (amazon).

For the trades I am lucky enough to have some good contacts;

The electrician is an employee of my dad's golf buddy's electrical contractors business so I've got mates rates.

The heating/plumbing has been done by another good friend of the GF's and mine, he owns a pretty sizable commercial HVAC business and given brexit delays to work has had a few guys spare. He's fitted me in around other jobs when work is slow and is charging me cost. He has also been handy in suggesting other trades/giving me detials e.g. plasterer.

Beyond this my dad is a professional QS/development manager so I use him to discuss/plan things when I have no idea and screen costs
Hope this helps?

sealtt

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158 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Thanks man, some good tricks there for the kit - I'll just have to battle on with finding good workers.

kiethton

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13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Another busy weekend....

Electiritan managed to do the first fix last week so I had hoped to finish the ceilings and then start the plasterboarding apace.

Having the bigger rooms to do and limited time (had to fix the motorbike on sunday), coupled with a broken hammer drill meant only the ceilings got completed in the end.

Nonetheless plumbing, heating and electrics are now at first fix, hopefully I'll get the walls/ceilings boarded this weekend, the door frames in after that and the plasterer in shortly afterwards - we are getting there!

Some bad quality progress pictures:

Main bedroom:



Living/kitchen:





E36GUY

5,906 posts

218 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Looking good Kieran!

kiethton

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Monday 11th July 2016
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Thanks Guy, looking likely that owing to how I've built the en-suite bathroom (solid wall cubicle) I'll likely be in contact one day this week to get another couple of lights

E36GUY

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218 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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kiethton said:
Thanks Guy, looking likely that owing to how I've built the en-suite bathroom (solid wall cubicle) I'll likely be in contact one day this week to get another couple of lights
Here when needed!


kiethton

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180 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Managed to get another hour and a bit in this evening whilst waiting for the plasterer to come in and quote, didn't get too much done, just finishing off the chasing and building half the ceiling in the spare room.

Thankfully the plasterer wasn't too late and the quote came in a good chunk under what I'd thought. All rooms fully plastered including all ceilings (more complicated than most due to perimeter bulkheads for the lights), he thinks it'll take a good week - £1k

For London I'm not complaining!

Only issue now is I've got to have all walls/ceilings finished, all door frames in and fully boarded by Monday 23rd!!!

Nothing like a little challenge!

Edited by kiethton on Wednesday 13th July 11:30

kiethton

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Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Quick question....

I have two now redundant gas pipes (look steel) that I need to remove ahead of the plasterer. The main on sits partially proud of the wall in the spare bedroom and there is a corresponding pipe coming from the concrete floor on the other side of the room (pipe going from the meter to the old cooker location).

I do not have an angle grinder.

Any other (one use) tool that will do the job of cutting these out? - I'll likely be able to get a hacksaw on the smaller upright as its 100% proud of the wall but can't see it working on the main pipe?

Typically carried on googling and found a "cold chisel" given its just pipe I presume that a bit of brute force should do the job (doesn't have to be 100% flush with the floor)

Edited by kiethton on Wednesday 13th July 15:02

Accelebrate

5,252 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Einhell-BT-AG-500W-Angle-...

Cheap angle grinder? They're useful things to have around. Alternatively a pad saw with a metal/hacksaw blade in it for the pipe with limited access.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Spot-27161-Mini-Hack...

kiethton

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180 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Accelebrate said:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Einhell-BT-AG-500W-Angle-...

Cheap angle grinder? They're useful things to have around. Alternatively a pad saw with a metal/hacksaw blade in it for the pipe with limited access.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Spot-27161-Mini-Hack...
I didn't realise angle grinders were that cheap, thanks for that one should be with me asap via prime smile

Now just need the disc's - metal & might as well get a tile one as I've got a shed load of tiling to do shortly

ndg

560 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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For cutting steel, get slitting discs:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accesso...

As they remove less material they are quicker and generate less heat. Make sure you wear eye protection though, the're more vulnerable to side loading.

kiethton

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Sunday 24th July 2016
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Been a little while since I updated this.

Sparky has finished the first fix as has my friend that's doing the plumbing, only issue is the mains input valve seems to be leaking...shut off for now but not ideal!

Plasterer was meant tone starting tomorrow morning but we haven't finished boarding out yet, so much more to do than I anticipated! We are getting there though, main bedroom and en-suite done (barring the pocket door covering - ply)

Will let the pictures do the talking...

Bedroom:





Laundry cupboard:

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En suite is now storage...



Living room/diner has the half wall built and boarded, half the ceiling done:





Bedroom is the worst of the lot - need to empty the crap out of it and dot and dab the walls over the course of the week:



Then it's just a case of fitting the kitchen that arrived earlier this week - have had a quote of £900 to fit the kitchen (5 base units, 3 wall units) and hang and make good 5 doors (labour only), not sure if it's a good price so will get some more quotes!

More pressing is finishing the boarding for the plasterer who now starts next Monday!

kiethton

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Wednesday 27th July 2016
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With the plasterboard nearly done now and the plasterer in next week attention now turns to the finishing side of things - Skirting and architraves.

If I'm getting a carpenter to fit the (DIY Kitchens) kitchen I might as well get them to the other woodwork too (I hate 45* angles!)

Have found this stuff which I like:




However, £430 for the lot (14 door openings counting both sides) and about 42m of skirting seems a little steep.

Anybody know where I can get this style (or very similar) for less? - don't mind un-primed, will give Cindy some more work to do!

Edited by kiethton on Wednesday 27th July 12:14

Harry Flashman

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242 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Try www.skirting4u.co.uk - they have most styles, and can come painted white. Usefully can also have a pipe cutout behind, for running cables.

Think it works out at around £7 per metre.

kiethton

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Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Thanks for that - had seen their "edge" style which came in at ~£360 but preferred the 2 slot (couldn't see that there?) - skirtingboardsdirect.com