wood flooring in a flat.

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Hard-Drive

4,079 posts

229 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Du1point8 said:
Leasehold state in the third schedule before referred to.

5. The floors of the Flat except the bathrooms cellars kitchens shall be completely covered with carpet.

It also states no window boxes, everyone has them.

Leasehold was created in 1983
I would say that the noise of splintering plastic and trampled geraniums would get quite annoying. However it's an interesting and very eco floor covering solution...

Squiggs

1,520 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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As others have stated the legal aspects don't really matter as the problem of dust won't be resolved by removing the carpet and then laying a different floor covering.
Carpet doesn't produce dust - it's the environment and human activity that produces dust.
So whether you've got carpet, wood, lino or any other floor covering the amount of dust will remain exactly the same.
The only way to reduce dust is to vacuum and clean more regularly.

otolith

56,147 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Du1point8 said:
Leasehold state in the third schedule before referred to.

5. The floors of the Flat except the bathrooms cellars kitchens shall be completely covered with carpet.
scratchchinidea

Use carpet as underlay!

otolith

56,147 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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The NHS recommends hard flooring for asthmatics - it's not the dust, it's the dust mites.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/asthma/Pages/Allaboutas...

Maybe worth trying buying a steam cleaner for the carpets, see if that helps?

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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people saying it doesn't matter, wood still has dust etc may be technically right, but chances are she's actually allergic to dust mites, and dust mites live in fabric, carpets etc, they don't thrive on wood or on vinyl which can be easily and regularly wiped clean

how about cork flooring? less noisy than wood

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Wednesday 30th September 11:41

benters

1,459 posts

134 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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could this be worth considering OP ?
http://www.rubberfloor.co.uk/

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Move to a ground floor flat and fit whatever floor you want. If a house is making its occupants ill and the problem can't be solved - time to move. Moving costs will be about the same as some of the genuinely noise-reducing solutions suggested on here.

Du1point8

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21,608 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Bluebarge said:
Move to a ground floor flat and fit whatever floor you want. If a house is making its occupants ill and the problem can't be solved - time to move. Moving costs will be about the same as some of the genuinely noise-reducing solutions suggested on here.
Don't think you understand the costs involved of moving from central London 2 bed flat to somewhere else that doesnt involve me being severely fked over by stamp duty costs.

Probably easier to get a share of the freehold and do it that way.

Neil H

15,323 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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How about changing your missus for a lower maintenance model?

I wouldn’t do it, it will definitely be noisier. Our flats are carpeted in the living area, open plan to the kitchens which are tiled. Over the weekend my neighbours 2 floors up had family round and it sounded like they were having a game of football up there. They weren’t, it was just everyday movement noise being amplified by the solid kitchen floor.

essayer

9,075 posts

194 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Keep the carpet, put wooden false floor on joists on top, seal edges? hehe

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Du1point8 said:
Don't think you understand the costs involved of moving from central London 2 bed flat to somewhere else that doesnt involve me being severely fked over by stamp duty costs.

Probably easier to get a share of the freehold and do it that way.
Then BTL mortgage and rent it out, then rent somewhere more suitable yourself. Buying a share of the freehold won't stop you annoying the neighbours.

Besides, what kind of a tightwad is happy to watch his OH cough her lungs up every day because he won't pay some tax that he'll have to pay eventually anyway? (tax take is falling, deficit still there, debt still massive and this is a Tory govt - SDLT not going to get any less painful for high-rollers).

Cheib

23,256 posts

175 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Du1point8 said:
Bluebarge said:
Move to a ground floor flat and fit whatever floor you want. If a house is making its occupants ill and the problem can't be solved - time to move. Moving costs will be about the same as some of the genuinely noise-reducing solutions suggested on here.
Don't think you understand the costs involved of moving from central London 2 bed flat to somewhere else that doesnt involve me being severely fked over by stamp duty costs.

Probably easier to get a share of the freehold and do it that way.
You will still need the permission of your fellow freeholders. With a share of the freehold you are still a lease holder but also have a share of the freehold company...the latter does not allow you to do things you are prohibited from in your lease.

kambites

67,576 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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There's two different "types" of sound that you need to block, air-born sound waves and impacts on the floor itself. The former can be effectively blocked using something like Rockwool between the joists but impacts (even something as light as foot steps) WILL be heard below because of the way they're transmitted through the joists. You'd probably need to take down the ceiling of the flat below and fit specialist sound blocking materials from the bottom to change that.

Plus as others have said, you still get just as much dust in the air with a wooden floor. If you want to keep dust levels down you'd probably be better off attacking the problem directly using air filters.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 1st October 09:10

stuartmmcfc

8,664 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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If it's dust mites/dust which is the problem why not buy a new, decent vacuum cleaner and us it regularly?

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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vacuum cleaners can't remove dust mites from carpets

tenacious little beasties, they cling on with their hooky appendages

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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sounds ideal, mites trapped on the floor, job done.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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they cling on, then poop and lay eggs, reproduce and die, leaving lots of nice irritants for the delicate airways of Mrs OP

Fatboy

7,979 posts

272 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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OP, what about a cushioned vinyl floor covering - would solve the dust mite habitat problem and be as quiet as carpet?

Or as a less sensible option, spray your carpets with DDT three times a day silly

Du1point8

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21,608 posts

192 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Currently looking at carpet and some air purifiers in the lounge and bedroom.

OH gets the final choice, I would like to rip it all up and put up with floor boards, she says no.... so carpet it is as I want a nice flooring and so don't want to spend several K on wood, then need to take it up and spend the same again on carpet.

Anyone got any good recommendations for carpet people?

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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There was always a very simple 100% certain way around the noise issue, while getting a laminate/vinyl/wood floor laid.
Make sure everyone takes their shoes off as soon as they enter the flat. wink