Fire risks prompt tumble dryer recall.

Fire risks prompt tumble dryer recall.

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SunsetZed

2,251 posts

170 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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DocJock said:
Seamless process for us.

We registered, they arranged an appointment, bloke came and spent 30 minutes fitting the new parts.

Painless.
Lucky you, out of interest when did you register? I currently get the image below on the portal so I guess I'd better call them, last time I did they told me it would be August I think so maybe it's still too far away for the portal.

If it wasn't for the fact that I only bought mine last August and it's a better spec than the replacement I'd be tempted to get the replacement just to save the hassle!


Le Mans Visitor

1,119 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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DocJock said:
Seamless process for us.

We registered, they arranged an appointment, bloke came and spent 30 minutes fitting the new parts.

Painless.
30 mins you say, Mine took about an hour and a half. Just about a complete stripdown, a new rear panel and a strategicly drilled rivet fitted to the back of the drum.

The engineer actually said this 'recall' was a waste of time as the rivet is there to stop the 'fluff' collecting on the seal however when the rear bearing fails (which he claims will in 5 years) the rivet will no longer work.



DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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SunsetZed said:
Lucky you, out of interest when did you register? I currently get the image below on the portal so I guess I'd better call them, last time I did they told me it would be August I think so maybe it's still too far away for the portal.

If it wasn't for the fact that I only bought mine last August and it's a better spec than the replacement I'd be tempted to get the replacement just to save the hassle!

I registered the same day the story broke.

stinkspanner

701 posts

181 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Just got my date for repair after registering in December last year: May 2017.
What.the.flip

Le Mans Visitor

1,119 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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I can't see me ever buying a Hotpoint / Indisit / Whirlpool item again.

Its a shambles.

SPR2

3,182 posts

196 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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When a dryer has not completed its cycle and items are left in a fire can be caused through spontaneous combustion as our local landlord was told after his Pub caught fire last week and a tremendous amount of damage done.

Laurel Green

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30,780 posts

232 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Can also happen when folding then stacking (sheets, ETC) after being dried. Hoteliers know this.

SunsetZed

2,251 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Repair booked for July 11th, fingers crossed it all happens on that date!

V8RX7

26,870 posts

263 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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I had an email at 7.30pm saying they were coming between 7.15 and 9am the next day.

If we weren't happy to contact them - we weren't happy as we had to get the kids to school and to work etc

Except that they are closed before 7.30pm and don't open until way after 7.15am so how exactly were we supposed to re arrange it ?

We ran around like idiots, I was late for work and of course the repair man doesn't turn up until 9.30am

Hotpoint couldn't see what was unreasonable with this and if you try to make a complaint you get pushed from call centre to call centre and then end up at Option 2 - which rings, then cuts you off.

Worst company I've ever dealt with.

cptsideways

13,547 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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Have been at my mums house for a few days & she said there has been this banging/whoomph noise coming from the conservatory area every now & then.

Well this morning I'm sat in there having a coffee &

yikes
whhoooomphh, buzzzz, whhooommph, visible arcing from under the tumble dryer & an acrid burning smell
yikes

Que a quick panic disconnect of the electrics & some diagnisis. Looks like fluff has been arcing on the electrical connections, the fluff is highly flammable after a quick test.


The fluff coated everything inside the casing, the bare internal 230v electrical fittings from the factory don't help. A REALLY st DESIGN IMHO

For ref its a White Knight 3kg Tumble Dryer, no recalls on this model but there is on others.

The obvious fault is the design internally!!!!! Shocking, truly shocking!!! Essentially the internals fill up with fluff, they all do we know that. But having bare connectors all over the place, with moist highly flammable fluff covering them = arcing = burn your house down.

BEWARE & CHECK THE FLUFF INTERNALLY

MrRee145

158 posts

163 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I gave up waiting for anything in the end, I first logged mine in December, my fix time, Feb 2017!! I ditched the Hotpoint branded one and bought one that I could get next day.

BigTom85

1,927 posts

171 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I have finally given up hope for a repair, and have bitten the bullet for a subsidised replacement. A bitter pill to swallow, but truth be told its served us well for 4 years and it's used most days.

Laurel Green

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30,780 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Owners told not to use dangerous tumble dryers after all.

BBC said:
But following advice from Trading Standards, the new guidance is not to use them until they are repaired.
A statement on the Whirlpool safety website says: "If your tumble dryer is affected by this issue, then you should unplug it and do not use it until the modification has taken place."

Squishey

568 posts

128 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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I had my Indesit condenser dryer modified last week. The repairman said that there are an estimated 5 million machines out there that require the modification but only 1.3 million (>85% complete) of those have registered to have it done. The deadline to register is fast approaching (May?) and Whirlpool will not be liable for fire caused by machines that remain unmodified/not registered after that date.

The modification involves replacing the rear cover with one that has a thicker flame retardant seal and installing a pop rivet through the drum.

According to the repairman, people are not very diligent with clearing the lint from the filter and washing out the condenser. The lint then gets drawn around the air-flow system and collects in an circular sealed area of the rear panel behind the drum. As the layers of fluff builds up, the weight of the lint forces itself down beyond the seal to where the heating element is, the heat from the heating element then causes the lint to catch fire.

The thicker seal makes it more difficult for the lint to reach the heating element, the pop rivet protrudes through the drum in to the sealed circular area of the rear panel agitating the lint that is collecting causing it to recirculate through the air-flow system.

I hope that makes sense!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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^^^^^^

The lint issue with mine (a cheapy now departed to the tip thankfully) was of poor cheap manufacturing and design. I took the rear of the machine off for another issue and the setup is very poor. I could hoover the filter after every use but the seals to the internals were non existent and the issue would still be there.

Forestfire

15 posts

92 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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jmorgan said:
^^^^^^

The lint issue with mine (a cheapy now departed to the tip thankfully) was of poor cheap manufacturing and design. I took the rear of the machine off for another issue and the setup is very poor. I could hoover the filter after every use but the seals to the internals were non existent and the issue would still be there.
yep, agree here. Ours was one of the ones affected and I did the same thing. Date for modification got pushed out and pushed out (registered for mod as soon as the notice came out). Dumped it and bought a Miele condenser dryer (with heat exchanger so v efficient). I realise now how much our old dryer was 'baking' everything dry - I thought a dryer was a dryer. It was expensive but it was worth it

Laurel Green

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30,780 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd December 2017
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Whirlpool tumble dryers: MPs' anger as replacement ends.

BBC said:
MPs are demanding to know why the white goods manufacturer Whirlpool ended a product replacement scheme for dangerous tumble dryers.
The Commons business committee says one million of the defective machines remain in UK homes.
Last week, a coroner blamed a fault in a Whirlpool dryer for a 2014 fire that killed two men in north Wales.
The firm says it is still offering free repairs, but ended a £50 offer for a replacement machine after demand fell.
The affected machines include dryers manufactured under the Hotpoint, Indesit, Creda, Swan or Proline brands between April 2004 and October 2015.

Last Visit

2,809 posts

188 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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This has been going on for several years now. And yet a million affected machines are still in use. That says more about the owners of them than about Hotpoint to me. If people haven't got their act together after 2 years then I think it's fair to say they don't give a fk about the risk that their machine presents.

Mojooo

12,721 posts

180 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Last Visit said:
This has been going on for several years now. And yet a million affected machines are still in use. That says more about the owners of them than about Hotpoint to me. If people haven't got their act together after 2 years then I think it's fair to say they don't give a fk about the risk that their machine presents.
TBF I believe people were being told they would have to wait months (Like 9 months) to get a repair. Some of the problem is definitely caused by Whirpool.

bristolbaron

4,821 posts

212 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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There’s no way any over two year old indesit machines are still going anyway!