cheaper to build nice wood garage or rendered breeze block?
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I am looking at building a new free-standing double garage, approx 20 x 20 feet and ideally with a room above. I have seen these fancy oak garages in magazines which look attractive, plus cheaper kit versions which probably look as good with a bit of tarting up.
My question is, does anyone have an idea on the price to build one of these and how this would compare to building a similar sized garage out of breeze blocks? I would not be doing any of the build work myself and the site is currently grass so will require all groundworks etc.
Thanks for any input.
Phil
My question is, does anyone have an idea on the price to build one of these and how this would compare to building a similar sized garage out of breeze blocks? I would not be doing any of the build work myself and the site is currently grass so will require all groundworks etc.
Thanks for any input.
Phil
philcray said:
I am looking at building a new free-standing double garage, approx 20 x 20 feet and ideally with a room above. I have seen these fancy oak garages in magazines which look attractive, plus cheaper kit versions which probably look as good with a bit of tarting up.
My question is, does anyone have an idea on the price to build one of these and how this would compare to building a similar sized garage out of breeze blocks? I would not be doing any of the build work myself and the site is currently grass so will require all groundworks etc.
Thanks for any input.
Phil
If you were building a single story flat roof garage in just brick/block I'd think you'd be looking at £20K+ - garages, worlds most expensive empty boxes My question is, does anyone have an idea on the price to build one of these and how this would compare to building a similar sized garage out of breeze blocks? I would not be doing any of the build work myself and the site is currently grass so will require all groundworks etc.
Thanks for any input.
Phil
Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
Wombat3 said:
If you were building a single story flat roof garage in just brick/block I'd think you'd be looking at £20K+ - garages, worlds most expensive empty boxes
Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
Can it be taller if it's more than a metre away from the boundary?Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
A room above precludes the cheap timber garages and unless you are happy with a very small room you will probably need planning (4m restriction on PD)
It will be cheaper to have rendered block than a fancy oak framed building.
You will be lucky to find an insurer to cover a timber garage against fire.
It will be cheaper to have rendered block than a fancy oak framed building.
You will be lucky to find an insurer to cover a timber garage against fire.
227bhp said:
Wombat3 said:
If you were building a single story flat roof garage in just brick/block I'd think you'd be looking at £20K+ - garages, worlds most expensive empty boxes
Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
Can it be taller if it's more than a metre away from the boundary?Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/common... is useful
As with all building, as soon as you get into the realms of needing planning permission then in theory anything is possible. Getting approval for it is another matter obviously. If its going to be done under permitted development then there are stipulations that you need to comply with (one of which is no more than 2.5m high if its within 2 metres of a boundary (2m, not 1m). I also believe that a single story garage of under 30 sq M will not need building regs.
Edited by Wombat3 on Tuesday 24th November 16:42
I got planning approved on a 2 1/2 bay proper oak framed garage with the extra half bay being hallway, stairs, and downstairs shower room.
Upstairs is a proper usable room with raised eaves and 2x dormer windows
Build cost for this is looking about 50K bar final fixtures.
Upstairs is a proper usable room with raised eaves and 2x dormer windows
Build cost for this is looking about 50K bar final fixtures.
Edited by sidekickdmr on Tuesday 24th November 17:12
This 1m 2m boundry thing confuses me.
My 4m high double garage forms the boundry along 1 side and is 2m away from the other boundry at the back.
So can I knock it down (single brick) and rebuild it where it is but double skin, 4m high or will I need to move it to satisfy what are presumably more recent boundry / height planning regs?
If I want to go over 4m for a second story will it have to be 2m off both boundrys?
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
My 4m high double garage forms the boundry along 1 side and is 2m away from the other boundry at the back.
So can I knock it down (single brick) and rebuild it where it is but double skin, 4m high or will I need to move it to satisfy what are presumably more recent boundry / height planning regs?
If I want to go over 4m for a second story will it have to be 2m off both boundrys?
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
rfisher said:
This 1m 2m boundry thing confuses me.
My 4m high double garage forms the boundry along 1 side and is 2m away from the other boundry at the back.
So can I knock it down (single brick) and rebuild it where it is but double skin, 4m high or will I need to move it to satisfy what are presumably more recent boundry / height planning regs?
You can probably "refurbish" it, just don't knock down too much at any one time My 4m high double garage forms the boundry along 1 side and is 2m away from the other boundry at the back.
So can I knock it down (single brick) and rebuild it where it is but double skin, 4m high or will I need to move it to satisfy what are presumably more recent boundry / height planning regs?
rfisher said:
If I want to go over 4m for a second story will it have to be 2m off both boundrys?
If you want to go over 4m you will need planning permission, proximity to the boundary then becomes just one of many considerations but isn't necessarily a deal breaker.rfisher said:
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
You could try that for sure, four years without anyone bothering and it's yours!philcray said:
I am looking at building a new free-standing double garage, approx 20 x 20 feet and ideally with a room above. I have seen these fancy oak garages in magazines which look attractive, plus cheaper kit versions which probably look as good with a bit of tarting up.
My question is, does anyone have an idea on the price to build one of these and how this would compare to building a similar sized garage out of breeze blocks? I would not be doing any of the build work myself and the site is currently grass so will require all groundworks etc.
Thanks for any input.
Phil
Ping me a PM, I might be able to help.My question is, does anyone have an idea on the price to build one of these and how this would compare to building a similar sized garage out of breeze blocks? I would not be doing any of the build work myself and the site is currently grass so will require all groundworks etc.
Thanks for any input.
Phil
Wombat3 said:
227bhp said:
Wombat3 said:
If you were building a single story flat roof garage in just brick/block I'd think you'd be looking at £20K+ - garages, worlds most expensive empty boxes
Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
Can it be taller if it's more than a metre away from the boundary?Major consideration is position of the building in relation to your boundary & also your house. If its within a metre of the boundary it needs to be under 2.4m tall & built of "substantially non combustible materials" I think.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/common... is useful
As with all building, as soon as you get into the realms of needing planning permission then in theory anything is possible. Getting approval for it is another matter obviously. If its going to be done under permitted development then there are stipulations that you need to comply with (one of which is no more than 2.5m high if its within 2 metres of a boundary (2m, not 1m). I also believe that a single story garage of under 30 sq M will not need building regs.
Edited by Wombat3 on Tuesday 24th November 16:42
Wombat3 said:
Steve H said:
rfisher said:
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
You could try that for sure, four years without anyone bothering and it's yours!Steve H said:
Wombat3 said:
Steve H said:
rfisher said:
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
You could try that for sure, four years without anyone bothering and it's yours!It seemed a harsh decision to me.
Renovation said:
Steve H said:
Wombat3 said:
Steve H said:
rfisher said:
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
You could try that for sure, four years without anyone bothering and it's yours!It seemed a harsh decision to me.
Rules are rules, but just such a shame.
sidekickdmr said:
Renovation said:
Steve H said:
Wombat3 said:
Steve H said:
rfisher said:
Or should I just ignore all these interfering jobsworths and build wtf I want on my land?
You could try that for sure, four years without anyone bothering and it's yours!It seemed a harsh decision to me.
Rules are rules, but just such a shame.
The bloke in Reigate seems to have known exactly what he was doing & that's also partly why it was never going to end well for him.
So what is the requirement pp wise if, as in my situation, there's a 4m high garage already existent on a boundary?
Can I leave it at 4m for the 1st 2m and rebuild it higher after that?
Would I have to demolish the whole thing and new build in accordance with current pp regs?
Would a builder know this?
Bit reluctant to ask the pp department just yet.
Don't want to get the aroused, as it were.
Can I leave it at 4m for the 1st 2m and rebuild it higher after that?
Would I have to demolish the whole thing and new build in accordance with current pp regs?
Would a builder know this?
Bit reluctant to ask the pp department just yet.
Don't want to get the aroused, as it were.
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