London house prices?

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Busa mav

2,562 posts

155 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Adam B said:
Busa mav said:
A few years ago now, but used to supp the odd Ramrod and Bitter in the Alma back in the early 70's
one of my locals beer
I suspect they no longer have lunch time strippers frown

ClaphamGT3

11,318 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Croutons said:
z4RRSchris said:
nice flat, its got a garden and a share of freehold which will boost the price.

Lets wait and see on the land reg to see what it went for.
That counts as a garden? fk me...
Bonnington Sq is a very atypical location; you can't take it as a bellwether of the Vauxhall market

okgo

38,153 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Never knew it existed, looks fairly pleasant in there!

p1stonhead

25,587 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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okgo said:
Never knew it existed, looks fairly pleasant in there!
+1 it looks like a strange tropical paradise. Palm Trees! hehe



From looking at the sold prices, it seems none of those blocks are houses, just flats?


okgo

38,153 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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I might be in the market for a 5-600k flat soon, a sq like that would do the job! Can't think of anything worse than one of the new builds!

paralla

3,540 posts

136 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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okgo said:
Never knew it existed, looks fairly pleasant in there!
I live on Bonnington Square. It's a little piece of paradise hidden away, just a stones throw from Vauxhall station but a world away from the hustle and bustle of Vauxhall.

Built in 1830's for railway workers, bought by the school next door in the late 70's and bricked up. Squatters moved in and got remarkably organised. They formed a housing assosciation. 80% of the houses on the square are occupied by housing assosciation tenants that have been there since the early 80's, 20% are privately owned with only two or three whole houses left, the remainder having been converted to 2 or 3 flats.

I've never hear it described as atypical, I'll take that as a good thing.

My original post (and point) was that a blanket statement that "you won't get £1100/sq ft in Vauxhall" isn't correct.

https://vimeo.com/acaciafilms/bonnington-square?re...

ClaphamGT3

11,318 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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paralla said:
okgo said:
Never knew it existed, looks fairly pleasant in there!
I live on Bonnington Square. It's a little piece of paradise hidden away, just a stones throw from Vauxhall station but a world away from the hustle and bustle of Vauxhall.

Built in 1830's for railway workers, bought by the school next door in the late 70's and bricked up. Squatters moved in and got remarkably organised. They formed a housing assosciation. 80% of the houses on the square are occupied by housing assosciation tenants that have been there since the early 80's, 20% are privately owned with only two or three whole houses left, the remainder having been converted to 2 or 3 flats.

I've never hear it described as atypical, I'll take that as a good thing.

My original post (and point) was that a blanket statement that "you won't get £1100/sq ft in Vauxhall" isn't correct.

https://vimeo.com/acaciafilms/bonnington-square?re...
It was definitely meant as a good thing - I love Bonnington Gardens. A very good friend of mine lived in a two storey flat there in the nineties and I just love the vibe there.

For fans of Jake Arnott, Bonnington Gardens is the squat where the anti-hero lives (and is eventually shot) in "He Kills Coppers"

IanA2

2,763 posts

163 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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paralla said:
okgo said:
Never knew it existed, looks fairly pleasant in there!
I live on Bonnington Square. It's a little piece of paradise hidden away, just a stones throw from Vauxhall station but a world away from the hustle and bustle of Vauxhall.

Built in 1830's for railway workers, bought by the school next door in the late 70's and bricked up. Squatters moved in and got remarkably organised. They formed a housing assosciation. 80% of the houses on the square are occupied by housing assosciation tenants that have been there since the early 80's, 20% are privately owned with only two or three whole houses left, the remainder having been converted to 2 or 3 flats.

I've never hear it described as atypical, I'll take that as a good thing.

My original post (and point) was that a blanket statement that "you won't get £1100/sq ft in Vauxhall" isn't correct.

https://vimeo.com/acaciafilms/bonnington-square?re...
Thanks, interesting video.

paralla

3,540 posts

136 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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okgo said:
I might be in the market for a 5-600k flat soon, a sq like that would do the job! Can't think of anything worse than one of the new builds!
The street outside my front door and the hallway outside the front door of Embassy Gardens apartments.




okgo

38,153 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Aye, I'm sold.

Will have to pay a visit on the way to Fire one night ;-)

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Very interesting thread for me as I am looking to buy a two bedroom flat in Surbiton. As I was looking through the properties on Rightmove I started to notice the number which have been reduced which I have not noticed before. If you do a search of 2 bedroom properties up to £450k, there are 98 properties of which 35 have been reduced.

The percentage of reductions reduce as the prices get cheaper, but out of the first two pages of 48 properties, 21 had been reduced in price.

This is making me very nervous as this is purely as an investment, if I buy this property I will be putting in all my savings and taking on a large mortgage. If prices reduce then this is going to make the whole thing pointless for me.



housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Joey Deacon said:
Very interesting thread for me as I am looking to buy a two bedroom flat in Surbiton. As I was looking through the properties on Rightmove I started to notice the number which have been reduced which I have not noticed before. If you do a search of 2 bedroom properties up to £450k, there are 98 properties of which 35 have been reduced.

The percentage of reductions reduce as the prices get cheaper, but out of the first two pages of 48 properties, 21 had been reduced in price.

This is making me very nervous as this is purely as an investment, if I buy this property I will be putting in all my savings and taking on a large mortgage. If prices reduce then this is going to make the whole thing pointless for me.
true

but I would price in the cost of liquidity

if u can buy what u really want now and hold for 20 years even a 20% dip wouldn't matter

but lets say prices start to move up from now and the liquidity choice goes down you'll be scrambling to get on the ladder you wanted before

all area dependent of course as I know 0 about Surbiton


Thankyou4calling

10,615 posts

174 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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If you're buying a flat in that area as an investment, my take is that it won't be a very good one.

Capital growth over 3-5 years will be nil if at all, rental income will be 3%.

Factor in the costs of buying, taxes etc and it doesn't stack up.

gibbon

2,182 posts

208 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Pure investment in Surbiton? Not for me imho.

Cost of carry will be high, and likely increasing, tax getting worse, i would imagine, should there be a correction, places like new builds in Surbiton will find themselves at the front of the fallers.

paralla

3,540 posts

136 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Surely you can't go wrong with something on The Avenue

okgo

38,153 posts

199 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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I've lived in Surbiton 10 years.

The issue now with the area is that its got to a level where for not much more cash (on normal places, 3 bed houses and flats) you can go to Richmond and get the same thing and while Surbiton is pleasant, its no Richmond. I think its being limited by other expensive areas if that makes sense.

I've said it before on here, but the cottages down by the river (Westfield rd, Cleveland etc) are around 7-850k - that's not only similar to Richmond, but also lots of other nice parts of SW London, prices are cooling in Surbiton, and its not somewhere I would expect to make money. Even the bit towards Tolworth has done its jump and I doubt going much higher.

And as said, the new build on Surbiton High St has seen huge cuts, Plaza or whatever its called, they were asking 700k for 2 beds in there at one point, they're 500 or below now.

Happy to advise you on the area though, I even worked as an agent round there back in the day, and have lived in multiple places around, so know it quite well.

£450k and investing then for me, you buy two flats the other side of the A3, lots of development going on and people are being priced out of Surbiton and are having to end up in Hook/Chessington etc.

Edited by okgo on Friday 18th November 10:19


Edited by okgo on Friday 18th November 10:23

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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Agreed. Who is going to spend that money on a house with current uncertainty and pay 12% stamp duty (out of earnings taxed at 45%+) on top?

NomduJour

19,156 posts

260 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Zod said:
12% stamp duty
Suspect it's no coincedence that I can see multiple loft extension scaffolds out of the window.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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NomduJour said:
Zod said:
12% stamp duty
Suspect it's no coincedence that I can see multiple loft extension scaffolds out of the window.
It's basements round here. They are everywhere.

Adam B

27,293 posts

255 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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stamp duty? what makes you think that?