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DonkeyApple said:
Ensuite because s
tting in your bedroom matters. 
Having a stter in your bedroom is a compromise to make at a hotel or similar but in a private home I've never understood why people want to move the dung bucket from its civilised separation into their bedroom. It seems to be because they think it's classy cos they've seen it in a flash hotel or that it's some kind of over reaction to having an outhouse in living memory.
You then see people shrinking bedrooms to fit them in and builders turning bathrooms into bedrooms and sticking a thunder box next to the bed.
Pretending to live in a bedsit is the most baffling of modern trends.
It's up there with people moving their kitchen into the sitting room so they can increase the bedroom count or splitting a proper double bedroom into two singles that they then thick are doubles because you can fit a 4'6" in.
Defacating and cooking really are best kept in their own segregated rooms as they always have been.
"No solids in the en-suite" has always been a firm rule for us. Having the en-suite shower is much preferable to skipping down the halfway hoping no one leaves their room.tting in your bedroom matters. Having a s
tter in your bedroom is a compromise to make at a hotel or similar but in a private home I've never understood why people want to move the dung bucket from its civilised separation into their bedroom. It seems to be because they think it's classy cos they've seen it in a flash hotel or that it's some kind of over reaction to having an outhouse in living memory. You then see people shrinking bedrooms to fit them in and builders turning bathrooms into bedrooms and sticking a thunder box next to the bed.
Pretending to live in a bedsit is the most baffling of modern trends.
It's up there with people moving their kitchen into the sitting room so they can increase the bedroom count or splitting a proper double bedroom into two singles that they then thick are doubles because you can fit a 4'6" in.
Defacating and cooking really are best kept in their own segregated rooms as they always have been.
Bedsit Britain!
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DonkeyApple said:
p1stonhead said:
DonkeyApple said:
Ensuite because stting in your bedroom matters.
Having a stter in your bedroom is a compromise to make at a hotel or similar but in a private home I've never understood why people want to move the dung bucket from its civilised separation into their bedroom. It seems to be because they think it's classy cos they've seen it in a flash hotel or that it's some kind of over reaction to having an outhouse in living memory.
You then see people shrinking bedrooms to fit them in and builders turning bathrooms into bedrooms and sticking a thunder box next to the bed.
Pretending to live in a bedsit is the most baffling of modern trends.
It's up there with people moving their kitchen into the sitting room so they can increase the bedroom count or splitting a proper double bedroom into two singles that they then thick are doubles because you can fit a 4'6" in.
Defacating and cooking really are best kept in their own segregated rooms as they always have been.
Most people have doors between an ensuite and bedroom you know tting in your bedroom matters. Having a s
tter in your bedroom is a compromise to make at a hotel or similar but in a private home I've never understood why people want to move the dung bucket from its civilised separation into their bedroom. It seems to be because they think it's classy cos they've seen it in a flash hotel or that it's some kind of over reaction to having an outhouse in living memory. You then see people shrinking bedrooms to fit them in and builders turning bathrooms into bedrooms and sticking a thunder box next to the bed.
Pretending to live in a bedsit is the most baffling of modern trends.
It's up there with people moving their kitchen into the sitting room so they can increase the bedroom count or splitting a proper double bedroom into two singles that they then thick are doubles because you can fit a 4'6" in.
Defacating and cooking really are best kept in their own segregated rooms as they always have been.
Just think about it, our society actually pays money to s
t in their bedroom so as to feel superior to people who defacate in a bespoke and segregated room. It is the madness of modern housing and the desperate shoe-horning of features and the gullibility of people to marketing.
Very obviously it is more civilised to keep one's ablutions wholly segregated and it is a function of lack of space that sees people instead resorting to fitting rooms within their bedrooms and then they brag about it!!!!!!
romeogolf said:
"No solids in the en-suite" has always been a firm rule for us. Having the en-suite shower is much preferable to skipping down the halfway hoping no one leaves their room.
I agree. And there is nothing wrong with having a bathroom directly connected to the bedroom if it has a water closet. But when the English give something a French word then automatically you know there is turd peddling taking place. That something is being polished to sell to the unwitting. And a WC that opens directly into a bedroom is the perfect example. It stems from the days of trying to entice people out of Butlins and into hotels by telling them they didn't have to soil with the masses but could crap in their own bedroom. They gave it a classy French name and lo and behold, before you know it people are doing it to their own homes thinking it's classy. Like prawn cocktail in a glass.
Only the English would think fitting a khazi to their bedroom was classy.
Hmm .. I think it depends on the size of the ensuite and ventilation.
I don't have a cr@pper in my ensuite as it is too small, but in good (5*) hotels they are around the corner from the bed area, and well ventilated, so you don't have problems with sh8t smells. Or at least I never have. Though I don't get to breathe the rarified air of the higher social echelons where DonkeyPerson resides, so it might be just my low standards.
I don't have a cr@pper in my ensuite as it is too small, but in good (5*) hotels they are around the corner from the bed area, and well ventilated, so you don't have problems with sh8t smells. Or at least I never have. Though I don't get to breathe the rarified air of the higher social echelons where DonkeyPerson resides, so it might be just my low standards.
kiethton said:
My 1 bed flat had 2 bathrooms when I bought it, now with a bit of internal reorganisation has 2 beds and 2 bathrooms
In the mid 90s I spent a few years buying tiny flats in Elgin Avenue that had originally been maid's quarters laid out as a bedroom/living room with a separate kitchen. They cost £40-50k as they were marketed as bedsits. All I did was move the kitchen into the living room and turn the old kitchen into a bedroom and in 8 days it was back on the market as a seriously on message, 1 bedroom flat for £75-80k.
I did a couple of 80s council flats in West Hampstead in a similar way. Moving the kitchen into the big living room and creating a third bedroom. In under a fortnight you were back on the market at £80k having bought for £55.
Later when the market became very competitive there just wasn't the big profit margin to make it worth my while to take a week's holiday from work to do the conversion. But for a couple of years I was doing 3/4 a year and couldn't believe how easy it was and how much extra money people would pay for the same space depending on how you used buzzwords of the moment.
Right now it does seem that we are possibly passing the phase of being able to tell people how many bedrooms you have (5 seemingly being the optimum means to promote the image of owning a manshun) to telling people how many thunder boxes you own and how many people you could have defecting in bedrooms at any one time.
gibbon said:
I'm not sure number of bedrooms makes all that much difference these days in the London market, I think its all about sq ft.
You might be right. It's certainly a metric that has become more relevant in marketing and pricing these days. When the likes of Knight Frank and the other commercial agents entered the residential market they seemed to bring that practice with them. DonkeyApple said:
gibbon said:
I'm not sure number of bedrooms makes all that much difference these days in the London market, I think its all about sq ft.
You might be right. It's certainly a metric that has become more relevant in marketing and pricing these days. When the likes of Knight Frank and the other commercial agents entered the residential market they seemed to bring that practice with them. they do not trade as quickly as 2 bed better laid out similar size 1 bed properties
no one wants a 1 bed flat in London
okgo said:
housen said:
seen 1mm gbp flat with 1 beds
they do not trade as quickly as 2 bed better laid out similar size 1 bed properties
no one wants a 1 bed flat in London
Everything will sell for the right price regardless of beds. they do not trade as quickly as 2 bed better laid out similar size 1 bed properties
no one wants a 1 bed flat in London
for eg
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 96sqm VS
2 bedroom flat for sale
Lion Court, Shand Street, SE1
High Specification - A wonderful opportunity to purchase this stylish, modern, and immaculately presented two bedroom two bathroom loft style apartment. Superbly positioned for London Bridge mainline station and the highly sought after Bermondsey Street.
Sold STC 82 sqm @ 945k
sorry link gone on above but very close to each other
housen said:
agree but not everyone will buy 1 bed even at right price
for eg
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 96sqm VS
To be fair, that one bedder has been fitted out for a very specialist market. Can't be many people who want to hear and smell people abluting while they are eating dinner. Or maybe that's how South London rolls? for eg
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 96sqm VS
It's hard to brag about one's dining room while someone's is cooling one up in the corner behind the kitchen which bafflingly is also in the dining room.
DonkeyApple said:
housen said:
agree but not everyone will buy 1 bed even at right price
for eg
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 96sqm VS
To be fair, that one bedder has been fitted out for a very specialist market. Can't be many people who want to hear and smell people abluting while they are eating dinner. Or maybe that's how South London rolls? for eg
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 96sqm VS
It's hard to brag about one's dining room while someone's is cooling one up in the corner behind the kitchen which bafflingly is also in the dining room.
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