Interesting property, what happened?
Discussion
So while aimlessly browsing rightmove yesterday I came across this:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
It looks A) very cheap, B) Abandoned and C) brand new and something just didn’t seem right with it.
A bit of Googling and I established that it was being filmed for grand designs in 2008, but then stopped and was never finished.
http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/search/3967719.TV_film...
It was for sale in 2013 for £900,000 and then dropped to £700,000 but never sold, at this time it looks like a completely finished and lived in house. It also has a completely separate one bed cottage/annex in the grounds, included in the sale.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
I spoke to the agent yesterday and they said Cash buyers only as it was never signed off as a "building" and needs another £200,000 or so spent on it to fulfil the landscaping planning condition and install a new kitchen etc.
They also said that in 2013 it was the owners selling, now its a company (I guess a re-possession?
I’m just intrigued into the history and why it needs things like a new kitchen when it looks brand new?
Anyone know the property, or what happened?
I love it, and would love to live there, but just stinks of bad luck and moneypit to me.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
It looks A) very cheap, B) Abandoned and C) brand new and something just didn’t seem right with it.
A bit of Googling and I established that it was being filmed for grand designs in 2008, but then stopped and was never finished.
http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/search/3967719.TV_film...
It was for sale in 2013 for £900,000 and then dropped to £700,000 but never sold, at this time it looks like a completely finished and lived in house. It also has a completely separate one bed cottage/annex in the grounds, included in the sale.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
I spoke to the agent yesterday and they said Cash buyers only as it was never signed off as a "building" and needs another £200,000 or so spent on it to fulfil the landscaping planning condition and install a new kitchen etc.
They also said that in 2013 it was the owners selling, now its a company (I guess a re-possession?
I’m just intrigued into the history and why it needs things like a new kitchen when it looks brand new?
Anyone know the property, or what happened?
I love it, and would love to live there, but just stinks of bad luck and moneypit to me.
easytiger123 said:
The notes at the bottom of the listing say the property is approached via an unmade driveway that is not in the possession of the property. I can only begin to imagine what kind of potential legal nightmares that could cause the owner of the house.
One would use ones helicopter surely?Conversion of Gun Emplacement into a House (2008-2011)
In 2008, a scheme to transform one of the fort's emplacements into a state of the art new home was suggested and soon put into effect.
The Channel 4 programme Grand Designs, presented by Kevin McCloud, was reported to be interested in featuring the project being tackled by Paul and Debbie Care, where the proposal was to see most of the home sitting on top of the emplacement's 62 ft-diameter circular concrete surround. The programme originally waited for full planning permission, which was granted by the end of the year. Paul Care, for the Dorset Echo, stated "A programme representative came down and visited us recently for interviews and pictures and we have now heard that they are very keen to do a programme on us and are just waiting for final confirmation." The Grand Designs programme began filming the project in December 2008, although the programme was never shown, where Debbie Care later stated in a 2011 View from Publishing online article "We hit design delays and we couldn't complete building in time to be used on the show."
The buying family had originally wanted somewhere to buy and refurbish, and Paul Care had become keen on the idea after seeing the fort views in an estate agent's window. Reportedly the fort had already sold, but the sale fell through and the family then purchased the property. The fort's cost of £250,000 was from the family's budget of £400,000, where the rest was to be used on refurbishment of the property. In the Dorset Echo article, Debbie Care revealed "We had been heading for Bournemouth to spend £250 on toys but we reached a decision, turned round and ended up spending £250,000 to buy the emplacement." Paul Care also added "We do have a budget of about £400,000 for the new build and one feature we know we want for the lower dining area is a glass wall along the east wall." The refurbished design ideas for the fort included a glass wall along the east wall for the dining area, whilst the upper part of the scheme would include the main living arrangements, with most of the rooms having a wedge shape. On top of this, the roof was to be covered in grass with solar panels and cells on the south face, whilst a central roof window would provide a skylight to the central part of the new home, as well as the creation of a two-car garage and an annexe on the site of the existing bungalow and magazine area.
In April 2011, the project was completed and the fort turned into a modern home. The area where the gun shells were hoisted to the emplacement remained untouched along with the hoist, while the sergeants' cookhouse and all the underground magazine levels were left untouched, although the cookhouse had plans for future restoration. The family put the fort up for sale in late 2013 for almost £1 million. As of 2014 this was reduced to £850,000 and again to £750,000 after.
In 2008, a scheme to transform one of the fort's emplacements into a state of the art new home was suggested and soon put into effect.
The Channel 4 programme Grand Designs, presented by Kevin McCloud, was reported to be interested in featuring the project being tackled by Paul and Debbie Care, where the proposal was to see most of the home sitting on top of the emplacement's 62 ft-diameter circular concrete surround. The programme originally waited for full planning permission, which was granted by the end of the year. Paul Care, for the Dorset Echo, stated "A programme representative came down and visited us recently for interviews and pictures and we have now heard that they are very keen to do a programme on us and are just waiting for final confirmation." The Grand Designs programme began filming the project in December 2008, although the programme was never shown, where Debbie Care later stated in a 2011 View from Publishing online article "We hit design delays and we couldn't complete building in time to be used on the show."
The buying family had originally wanted somewhere to buy and refurbish, and Paul Care had become keen on the idea after seeing the fort views in an estate agent's window. Reportedly the fort had already sold, but the sale fell through and the family then purchased the property. The fort's cost of £250,000 was from the family's budget of £400,000, where the rest was to be used on refurbishment of the property. In the Dorset Echo article, Debbie Care revealed "We had been heading for Bournemouth to spend £250 on toys but we reached a decision, turned round and ended up spending £250,000 to buy the emplacement." Paul Care also added "We do have a budget of about £400,000 for the new build and one feature we know we want for the lower dining area is a glass wall along the east wall." The refurbished design ideas for the fort included a glass wall along the east wall for the dining area, whilst the upper part of the scheme would include the main living arrangements, with most of the rooms having a wedge shape. On top of this, the roof was to be covered in grass with solar panels and cells on the south face, whilst a central roof window would provide a skylight to the central part of the new home, as well as the creation of a two-car garage and an annexe on the site of the existing bungalow and magazine area.
In April 2011, the project was completed and the fort turned into a modern home. The area where the gun shells were hoisted to the emplacement remained untouched along with the hoist, while the sergeants' cookhouse and all the underground magazine levels were left untouched, although the cookhouse had plans for future restoration. The family put the fort up for sale in late 2013 for almost £1 million. As of 2014 this was reduced to £850,000 and again to £750,000 after.
loads of history on the web about this place....
if it was me....id track down the the owner shes registered companies house shouldnt be to hard to track her address, ask her to shed some light on the place.
DEBORAH CARE, Director, 2010-12-09 ... 2012-11-07, AD01, REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 07/11/2012 FROM BLACKNOR FORT PORTLAND DORSET ...
if it was me....id track down the the owner shes registered companies house shouldnt be to hard to track her address, ask her to shed some light on the place.
DEBORAH CARE, Director, 2010-12-09 ... 2012-11-07, AD01, REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 07/11/2012 FROM BLACKNOR FORT PORTLAND DORSET ...
Yes thanks for the info and links!
I did actually read that article, but that’s what confused me.
It WAS a lived in and finished house for sale for 1 million pounds only 2 years ago.
Now its a un mortagagble, unliveable, half finished shell that needs £200,000 spent on it including new floors and kitchens and its not even signed off by building control.
If im honest I don’t have the £600,000 plus sat in the bank in cash to buy it, so im not going to waste her time speaking to her, however if it was mortgage able, or even bridging/short term financeable I may be a tad interested, but the above question is the big one for me.
I did actually read that article, but that’s what confused me.
It WAS a lived in and finished house for sale for 1 million pounds only 2 years ago.
Now its a un mortagagble, unliveable, half finished shell that needs £200,000 spent on it including new floors and kitchens and its not even signed off by building control.
If im honest I don’t have the £600,000 plus sat in the bank in cash to buy it, so im not going to waste her time speaking to her, however if it was mortgage able, or even bridging/short term financeable I may be a tad interested, but the above question is the big one for me.
The planning conditions for the landscaping, annexe and carport isn't the simplest. For example, the Council is requesting the coastal footpath to be made safe. The obvious solution is providing a right of way through the land, otherwise controlling any form of erosion would be a mammoth undertaking in the form of cost!
sidekickdmr said:
Yes thanks for the info and links!
I did actually read that article, but that’s what confused me.
It WAS a lived in and finished house for sale for 1 million pounds only 2 years ago.
Now its a un mortagagble, unliveable, half finished shell that needs £200,000 spent on it including new floors and kitchens and its not even signed off by building control.snow
Where can you see that the property was once finished with a completed kitchen and BC signoff? The photos show new kitchen cabinetry and no sign of appliances ever having been installed.I did actually read that article, but that’s what confused me.
It WAS a lived in and finished house for sale for 1 million pounds only 2 years ago.
Now its a un mortagagble, unliveable, half finished shell that needs £200,000 spent on it including new floors and kitchens and its not even signed off by building control.snow
sidekickdmr said:
If im honest I don’t have the £600,000 plus sat in the bank in cash to buy it, so im not going to waste her time speaking to her, however if it was mortgage able, or even bridging/short term financeable I may be a tad interested, but the above question is the big one for me.
Have you put an offer in?According to the link:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
it's now off the market, or perhaps you peaked someone's interest.
don'tbesilly said:
Have you put an offer in?
According to the link:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
it's now off the market, or perhaps you peaked someone's interest.
Don't be sily According to the link:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
it's now off the market, or perhaps you peaked someone's interest.
. That link is from 2013. It's been back on the market since earlier this year (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34016559.html).EViS said:
don'tbesilly said:
Have you put an offer in?
According to the link:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
it's now off the market, or perhaps you peaked someone's interest.
Don't be sily According to the link:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
it's now off the market, or perhaps you peaked someone's interest.
. That link is from 2013. It's been back on the market since earlier this year (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34016559.html).Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff