Household LED disappointment
Discussion
I've tried quite a few different LEDs for the house via ebay and have generally been pretty disappointed. My experience has been:
G9s tend to be too white, even the softer ones are a lot harsher than halogens. Dimmer too compared to 42w
ses E14 candles tend to be dull and too white
MR11 seem to be peachy in colour and a bit dim for the kitchen
All seem OK if you want white as white can be but they just seem to be too harsh
Are my expectatiions too high, or is ebay just for cheap Chinese ones? Are there any decent ones out there?
Advice appreciated thx.
G9s tend to be too white, even the softer ones are a lot harsher than halogens. Dimmer too compared to 42w
ses E14 candles tend to be dull and too white
MR11 seem to be peachy in colour and a bit dim for the kitchen
All seem OK if you want white as white can be but they just seem to be too harsh
Are my expectatiions too high, or is ebay just for cheap Chinese ones? Are there any decent ones out there?
Advice appreciated thx.
Orchid1 said:
Philips LED bulbs are pretty good also believe it or not if you go to Ikea they should have a display of all their LED bulbs so you can see what kind of light they give off.
Can't go wrong with Philips in our house, warm White dimmable just hit the spot and they're always on offer every few weeks at b&qLaurasOtherHalf said:
Can't go wrong with Philips in our house, warm White dimmable just hit the spot and they're always on offer every few weeks at b&q
Agree with this. I have some 4.5W and 5.5W jobs and they're great.contractor said:
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G9s tend to be too white, even the softer ones are a lot harsher than halogens. Dimmer too compared to 42w
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Totally agree - really want to find some decent G9s but having tried 3 different types, all are too white (despite saying they are the same colour temp as the Philips - 2700K).G9s tend to be too white, even the softer ones are a lot harsher than halogens. Dimmer too compared to 42w
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If anyone has found any that match the warmth of halogens, please post up.
Murph7355 said:
Totally agree - really want to find some decent G9s but having tried 3 different types, all are too white (despite saying they are the same colour temp as the Philips - 2700K).
If anyone has found any that match the warmth of halogens, please post up.
I've used these and am happy with them. To my eyes they are identical to the 40w halogens they replaced.If anyone has found any that match the warmth of halogens, please post up.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0122N6ONE?psc=...
gmaz said:
I've used these and am happy with them. To my eyes they are identical to the 40w halogens they replaced.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0122N6ONE?psc=...
Random question, are the plugs a reasonably tight fit? I ply ak as the ones I've tried are fairly loose and fall out occasionally.http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0122N6ONE?psc=...
oilydan said:
I bought a load of LED for my kitchen, looking to reduce power consumption from the 16 x 50W halogens to 16 x 5W LEDs.
All they did was flicker and flash.
Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)
This won't be very helpful, but the fundamental problem is that you can easily run incandescent bulbs on high voltage A/C supplies which are also efficient for distributing power over a reasonable distance, but LEDs need to run on low voltage DC. This makes them fundamentally badly suited to be made backwardly compatible with conventional light bulbs and their circuits. Each LED bulb ends up with its own integrated voltage regulator, or you have to install a voltage regulator for a run of LED bulbs. Old style dimmer switches are particularly bad news. I'm sure in years to come we'll develop some better standards for low power DC lighting circuits, bit for the time being we're stuck trying to run gas turbines on charcoal. All they did was flicker and flash.
Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)
oilydan said:
I bought a load of LED for my kitchen, looking to reduce power consumption from the 16 x 50W halogens to 16 x 5W LEDs.
All they did was flicker and flash.
Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)
A bit more effort but you want to be getting rid of the transformers and replacing your MR16 halogens with GU10 LED.All they did was flicker and flash.
Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)
gmaz said:
I've used these and am happy with them. To my eyes they are identical to the 40w halogens they replaced.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0122N6ONE?psc=...
I don't suppose you have any photos of them on? (Pref. alongside a halogen one)?http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0122N6ONE?psc=...
ATG said:
oilydan said:
I bought a load of LED for my kitchen, looking to reduce power consumption from the 16 x 50W halogens to 16 x 5W LEDs.
All they did was flicker and flash.
Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)
This won't be very helpful, but the fundamental problem is that you can easily run incandescent bulbs on high voltage A/C supplies which are also efficient for distributing power over a reasonable distance, but LEDs need to run on low voltage DC. This makes them fundamentally badly suited to be made backwardly compatible with conventional light bulbs and their circuits. Each LED bulb ends up with its own integrated voltage regulator, or you have to install a voltage regulator for a run of LED bulbs. Old style dimmer switches are particularly bad news. I'm sure in years to come we'll develop some better standards for low power DC lighting circuits, bit for the time being we're stuck trying to run gas turbines on charcoal. All they did was flicker and flash.
Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)
These aren't cheap Chinese either. The bulbs are £7 each.
If you're happy to replace the fittings, I can recommend www.ecoledlight.co.uk . I bought 28 ZEP 1s via PH-er E36GUY who works for the company. They are much better than any retrofit replacement I've tried so far.
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