Household LED disappointment

[8-P]

weeboot said:

No, Haymarket get paid, skimlinks..

yeh noticed the skimlinks drop into AWIN, easy money init!

[RYH64E]

I've had the same problem with LED G9s, bought as Warm White but give a nasty bluish light. If anyone has a source of good quality, preferably dimmable, Warm White G9 LED lamps I need about 20 off.

[gmaz]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Random question, are the plugs a reasonably tight fit? I ply ak as the ones I've tried are fairly loose and fall out occasionally.

I found the opposite - they are a tight fit and need a lot of wiggling to get them in. Maybe it depends on the light fitting?

Murph7355 said:

I don't suppose you have any photos of them on? (Pref. alongside a halogen one)?

I tried taking a pic but my phone makes the lamps look much darker and whiter than in reality.

[gmaz]

RYH64E said:

I've had the same problem with LED G9s, bought as Warm White but give a nasty bluish light. If anyone has a source of good quality, preferably dimmable, Warm White G9 LED lamps I need about 20 off.

I got these dimmable ones

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00V5QI36G?psc=...

They have been OK for me but there's lots of bad reviews on amazon so your mileage may vary as they say. There's no flicker except when on the dimmest setting, even with my 6 year old dimmer switch that probably predates LED lamp technology. But dimming is not very gradual & smooth - that could be my switch.

From the Amazon section saying what else people bought, it looks like people have got several different types intending to return the ones that don't work so well.

[RichB]

One things for sure, all this new light bulb technology doesn't make it any easier to buy a light bulb! Because they bow so frequently I decided to replace the small 20w halogen G4 bulbs in my kitchen with LED equivalents. Did some research on Pistonheads, read the reviews, found some that would fit the holders and selected warm white ones with 2800 warmth units apparently. Fact is they're horrible, aside from being nowhere near as bright as the 20w 12v bulbs they replaced they are an insipid white only suitable for a morgue - warm my arse I say! I've removed them all and re-fitted the halogen bulbs and will wait for the technology to improve before wasting any more money.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

The_Burg said:

Has anyone else tried the Pound Shop ones, oddly enough for £1.
Bought a few to try in the kitchen. Have to admit the work fine. Bit ugly but as long as the backs are hidden by the light fitting so what?

350w consumption down to 7w and light seems fine. Well worth it for £7.

Since they brought out the 5w ones, my whole house is using them. GU10's in the kitchen, and 5w bayonet type in all the light fittings. No complaints here - they're excellent.

[thebraketester]

JulianHJ said:

If you're happy to replace the fittings, I can recommend www.ecoledlight.co.uk . I bought 28 ZEP 1s via PH-er E36GUY who works for the company. They are much better than any retrofit replacement I've tried so far.

^^^ This.

the give off great light, that really doesnt have that awful LED quality to it. I honestly wouldnt use anything other than Ecoleds.

[buggalugs]

The light from the Phillips ones is so much nicer than el cheapo ones they're well worth the extra.

[Dr Mike Oxgreen]

buggalugs said:

The light from the Phillips ones is so much nicer than el cheapo ones they're well worth the extra.

^^ This, multiplied by a thousand.

Truly, Philips LEDs give a beautiful light - perfect colour, with a nice sparkle to it. Nothing else comes close. Don't skimp on bulbs when they're going to last as long as these will. Why buy el cheapo bulbs that are only going to annoy you for many years to come?

In fact, I try to only buy Philips bulbs these days. Even their compact fluorescents were miles better than anyone else's, with nicer colour, and an instant turn-on at 90% brightness. But there's no reason to buy CFLs now that LEDs have become so good.

[oilydan]

AB said:

oilydan said:

I bought a load of LED for my kitchen, looking to reduce power consumption from the 16 x 50W halogens to 16 x 5W LEDs.

All they did was flicker and flash.

Apparently something to do with the transformers? Can anyone shed any light? ('scuse the pun!)

A bit more effort but you want to be getting rid of the transformers and replacing your MR16 halogens with GU10 LED.

I just swopped the MR16 halogens for MR16 LEDs, is that not right?

I don't have access to the roof space above to change out the transformers; it seems the lights were put up when the boarded ceiling went up.....

[JulianHJ]

oilydan said:

I just swopped the MR16 halogens for MR16 LEDs, is that not right?

I don't have access to the roof space above to change out the transformers; it seems the lights were put up when the boarded ceiling went up.....

The transformers for my MR16s are accessible via the holes for the light fittings - yours may be the same. I've had to replace a couple over the last nine years, and all I needed to do was remove the lamp and pull the wiring through.

[AB]

oilydan said:

I just swopped the MR16 halogens for MR16 LEDs, is that not right?

I don't have access to the roof space above to change out the transformers; it seems the lights were put up when the boarded ceiling went up.....

Nothing fundamentally wrong with what you've done but I'd always advise getting rid of the transformer as they can become problematic.

Do you know if each lamp has a transformer?

[matty g]

Philips hue.. As warm or cold as you like (or pink) and as bright or as dim as needed. (maybe not as Bright as needed)

oh but pricey

[Foliage]

Changed all my bulbs to LED in my apartment, bought them all in ikea, im really pleased with them except the bulbs I got for the kitchen are far too bright, living room main lights are too bright aswell but I never have them on, I use the led strips ive setup behind my TV most of the time.

[buggalugs]

Dr Mike Oxgreen said:

buggalugs said:

The light from the Phillips ones is so much nicer than el cheapo ones they're well worth the extra.

^^ This, multiplied by a thousand.

Truly, Philips LEDs give a beautiful light - perfect colour, with a nice sparkle to it. Nothing else comes close. Don't skimp on bulbs when they're going to last as long as these will. Why buy el cheapo bulbs that are only going to annoy you for many years to come?

In fact, I try to only buy Philips bulbs these days. Even their compact fluorescents were miles better than anyone else's, with nicer colour, and an instant turn-on at 90% brightness. But there's no reason to buy CFLs now that LEDs have become so good.

Yup

I got 12 GU10's from LED Hut for the kitchen 3/4 years ago and they were great in terms of the money saved and not a single one has blown. But the light is a bit harsh from them despite being warm white. The Phillips ones now are just beautiful. Any bulbs I need around the house I order Phillips ones. Eventually I will replace the LED hut ones too.

[J__D]

buggalugs said:

Yup

I got 12 GU10's from LED Hut for the kitchen 3/4 years ago and they were great in terms of the money saved and not a single one has blown. But the light is a bit harsh from them despite being warm white. The Phillips ones now are just beautiful. Any bulbs I need around the house I order Phillips ones. Eventually I will replace the LED hut ones too.

I also bought the LED hut GU10's 3 years ago or so too, and although very good the light is a bit harsh.

I think technology has moved on generally, not only with Phillips, as recently for the rest of the house I've bought a number of new GU10s they (LED hut) released over the past few months which offer a far nicer, warmer colour

[shakotan]

Screwfix LAP range are excellent GU10 LED bulbs. I have Warm White in my kitchen and Cool White in the bathroom.

[Matt100HP]

buggalugs said:

Dr Mike Oxgreen said:

buggalugs said:

The light from the Phillips ones is so much nicer than el cheapo ones they're well worth the extra.

^^ This, multiplied by a thousand.

Truly, Philips LEDs give a beautiful light - perfect colour, with a nice sparkle to it. Nothing else comes close. Don't skimp on bulbs when they're going to last as long as these will. Why buy el cheapo bulbs that are only going to annoy you for many years to come?

In fact, I try to only buy Philips bulbs these days. Even their compact fluorescents were miles better than anyone else's, with nicer colour, and an instant turn-on at 90% brightness. But there's no reason to buy CFLs now that LEDs have become so good.

Yup

I got 12 GU10's from LED Hut for the kitchen 3/4 years ago and they were great in terms of the money saved and not a single one has blown. But the light is a bit harsh from them despite being warm white. The Phillips ones now are just beautiful. Any bulbs I need around the house I order Phillips ones. Eventually I will replace the LED hut ones too.

Another vote for Philips LED bulbs from me. We've got various different types of Philips LEDs around the house, from their 100w equivalent B22 (which, by the way, is like having a small sun attached to the ceiling) to their 50w equivalent GU10. They're all great; they produce a nice, warm light that's very similar to an old incandescent bulb, but without the associated electricity usage. Also, none of them have blown yet and we must have about 35-40 in total.

[E36GUY]

thebraketester said:

JulianHJ said:

If you're happy to replace the fittings, I can recommend www.ecoledlight.co.uk . I bought 28 ZEP 1s via PH-er E36GUY who works for the company. They are much better than any retrofit replacement I've tried so far.

^^^ This.

the give off great light, that really doesnt have that awful LED quality to it. I honestly wouldnt use anything other than Ecoleds.

Very kind thank you.

[oilydan]

AB said:

oilydan said:

I just swopped the MR16 halogens for MR16 LEDs, is that not right?

I don't have access to the roof space above to change out the transformers; it seems the lights were put up when the boarded ceiling went up.....

Nothing fundamentally wrong with what you've done but I'd always advise getting rid of the transformer as they can become problematic.

Do you know if each lamp has a transformer?

Each lamp does have it's own transformer.

Is there anything I can do to be able to use the MR16 bulbs?