PRIVATE TENANTS: Did your rent go up at your last renewal?

PRIVATE TENANTS: Did your rent go up at your last renewal?

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romeogolf

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2,056 posts

120 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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For those who rent privately, did you rent go up at your last renewal? By how much?

Ours is going up by £25 (2.75%) after 18 months of living here. It's not a huge amount but it feels very much "just for the sake of it". Our flat is at the top end of local prices, but it *is* better decorated than others we've seen, so we'll be happy to pay for it at this point.

That said, I have emailed the agent to ask if the landlord would consider keeping the rent at £900 for another year as we've been decent tenants, paid on time, not damaged anything etc.

fido

16,817 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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Well they are entitled to increase the rent if the tenancy is renewed, and in the same way you can choose to find somewhere else to live. Of course, negotiate if you feel it's too much or you can get a better deal. From LL's point of view - they may have faced increases in maintenance and other costs aside from mortgage interest which they wish to pass on.

surveyor

17,856 posts

185 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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LL feel like they would like an uplift. However if you are a good tenant you can always point out how much a months void comes to.

AndyLB

428 posts

165 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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When we had a rent increase after 12 months I felt the same - a tax on introverts who wont challenge it.

I just replied saying I would be happy to continue my tenancy but not at the increased rate. Rent stayed as it was.

Zelda Pinwheel

500 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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yes, by 10%.

Our landlord had the property management handled by the farm manager for the last umpteen years, but before Christmas has contracted a local agent to handle matters.
Our renewal is the first for a while, but the agent thinks it'd not been increased since 2003...

we'll take a 10% uplift over 12 years, thanks!

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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We kept the rate the same for one tenant for the last 3 years.
They kept the house immaculate so more than happy not raise the figure.
When they moved out we increased the rent.
Works both ways.

marksx

5,052 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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6 years over 2 houses, our rents never changed.

voicey

2,453 posts

188 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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As a landlord, I wouldn't dream of raising the rent by such a paltry amount for good tenants. Good tenants are worth their weight in gold and I bend over backwards to make sure they are happy. As has already been said, a month void and the increase has been wiped out.

romeogolf

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2,056 posts

120 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Reply from our lettings agent...

Agent said:
I have spoken with the landlord and requested £900.00. Although I tried to negotiate a lesser amount and he agrees that you are good tenants he is quite adamant that he wants £925.00.

Although as a tenant you have to agree to the rental increase I got the feeling he would be happy to re-advertise the property as other flats in the block are renting out at a far higher rent should you not agree to the increase.

Please advise as to whether you wish to renew at £925.00 or will be vacating at the end of your tenancy.
£925 it is. Joys.

Pickled Piper

6,345 posts

236 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Spudler said:
We kept the rate the same for one tenant for the last 3 years.
They kept the house immaculate so more than happy not raise the figure.
When they moved out we increased the rent.
Works both ways.
As above. A good tenant is worth far more than increased rental income. We too have maintained rent for three year periods.

E36GUY

5,906 posts

219 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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5% every year frown

Thankfully we're on the move

gibbon

2,182 posts

208 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I offered my tenants the same rate (renew after 18 months), they decided they wanted to move, i put up the rent by about £100 a month (just under 5%) when advertising and had the flat let out no problems with no gaps.

For ongoing good tenants I wouldnt try to increase the rent every time, if the market dictates it for new tenants, I see no reason not to.

shakotan

10,710 posts

197 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I renewed my tenancy in October, and the rent went up from £900/month to £920/month.

In response to this I negotiated a 2-year contract rather than a 1-year one to protect a further increase next year.

If the rent is significantly increased the year after then I'll consider moving.

caiss4

1,888 posts

198 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I fear that annual rent rises will become the norm over the next few years as the Chancellor's budget changes to tax relief on mortgage interest phase in.

I have a couple of mortgaged properties where, to maintain the same net return, I will be wanting to increase the monthly rent year-on-year by £25 per month. This will equate to 15% over 5 years. Obviously this may prove unpalatable to my tenants and as others have said if you have a good tenant then they are worth keeping so I'll have to see whether I will actually be able to implement.

Phateuk

751 posts

138 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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We got a letter out of the blue stating it was going up from £625 to £675, been there 3 years, not called them once. House still in original condition.

I phoned and queried it, got it dropped to £650. As others say, I'm sure a good tenant is more value than a few extra quid a month.

romeogolf

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2,056 posts

120 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Phateuk said:
I phoned and queried it, got it dropped to £650. As others say, I'm sure a good tenant is more value than a few extra quid a month.
As a landlord myself, I wouldn't want to increase rent on a tenant who pays on time and gives me no grief. Exception being if my own costs increased (such as interest rates). We know the LL has recently re-mortgaged the property as the agent requested access for the valuation a few months back so I imagine his costs went down if anything.

We're 99% likely to just suck it up for an easy life, although I may write back and request a 2-year tenancy. I requested that last year and it was denied so I don't hold much luck but it's worth a shot.

mcflurry

9,099 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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romeogolf said:
Reply from our lettings agent...

Agent said:
I have spoken with the landlord and requested £900.00. Although I tried to negotiate a lesser amount and he agrees that you are good tenants he is quite adamant that he wants £925.00.

Although as a tenant you have to agree to the rental increase I got the feeling he would be happy to re-advertise the property as other flats in the block are renting out at a far higher rent should you not agree to the increase.

Please advise as to whether you wish to renew at £925.00 or will be vacating at the end of your tenancy.
£925 it is. Joys.
Are the other flats more expensive on rightmove?


SpudLink

5,878 posts

193 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I rent through a letting agency, but my landlord lives across the road. At the last renewal he told me the agency informed him they were increasing the rent inline with market values. He told them to leave it unchanged as he would rather retain a good tenant. I don't know if this is normal practice by agents.

PugwasHDJ80

7,529 posts

222 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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We rent direct from a the landlord (on a country shooting "estate").

The houses are vey much part of the estates income, as such the rent rises with inflation every year.

I think that's fair.

sideways sid

1,371 posts

216 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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OP, what does your lease say?

Review at anniversary?
Upward-only review at anniversary?
2.75% increase at anniversary?
Review by RPI or other measure of inflation...?

Remember that the letting agent is the agent of the LL, not you, and is negotiating for the LL, not you.