Guttering on Victorian House, last lot lasted 120 years ..

Guttering on Victorian House, last lot lasted 120 years ..

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Original Poster:

1,066 posts

182 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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...so am I best replacing cast iron with similar ? Am thinking of http://www.alumascrainwater.co.uk/pdf/Apex_cast.pd...

House is effing tall so need scaffolding , pain in the arse so never want to do it again so longevity is number 1 priority along with zero maintenance if possible. So looking at sand cast iron , pre painted in black , any tips or advice gratefully received!

Thx

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Perhaps better to go for plastic, but the cast look. Would be cheaper too with zero maintenance. Brett Martin do some good stuff:

http://www.brettmartin.com/en-gb/plumbing-and-drai...

Edited by Tonsko on Saturday 13th February 21:09

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Original Poster:

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182 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Tonsko said:
Perhaps better to go for plastic, but the cast look. Would be cheaper too with zero maintenance. Brett Martin do some good stuff:

http://www.brettmartin.com/en-gb/plumbing-and-drai...

Edited by Tonsko on Saturday 13th February 21:09
Cheers , would plastic fade quicker than cast iron would rot tho? Looking at the cast iron that we're replacing it was only repainted once when we moved in nearly 20 yrs ago so lasted a century without reprinting !

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Go here: http://www.rainguard.co.uk/?gclid=CjwKEAiAxfu1BRDF...
Choose aluminium clip together, it is the stuff to have. Plastic fades, moves and goes brittle, don't ruin your house with plastic.
The stuff in the link lasts and lasts with no issues and no maintenance.

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Saturday 13th February 2016
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Evoluzione said:
Go here: http://www.rainguard.co.uk/?gclid=CjwKEAiAxfu1BRDF...
Choose aluminium clip together, it is the stuff to have. Plastic fades, moves and goes brittle, don't ruin your house with plastic.
The stuff in the link lasts and lasts with no issues and no maintenance.
I'll have a look thanks!

Steve H

5,260 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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I used cast when renovating my place, I'd expect it to safely see me out.

http://www.saint-gobain-pam.co.uk/soil-drain-rainw...


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182 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Steve H said:
I used cast when renovating my place, I'd expect it to safely see me out.

http://www.saint-gobain-pam.co.uk/soil-drain-rainw...
Cheers , I'll get in touch with them as it looks like their classic plus is ideal

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Cast ally powder coated.

You'll find these a lot cheaper than Alumasc.


http://www.arp-ltd.com/

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

247 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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You could also try these:
http://www.longbottomfoundry.co.uk/

I'd go cast iron as you should be able to replace like for like size wise and use existing support holes. I've bought lots of second hand (replacing existing plastic which has hole sin it and the joints are crap) which I'm going to sandblast and paint in POR15 so never have to do it again.
FFG

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Never "Powder coat" Cast IRON or Cast ALLOY. VERY BAD advice

The smallest hair line crack or damage in the powder coat will allow tracking of corrosion under the coating and it will flake quickly. A good zinc primer (oil based) and quality oil based paint on top.....But NEVER NEVER NEVER Powder Coat it.

Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 14th February 10:43

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
Never "Powder coat" Cast IRON or Cast ALLOY. VERY BAD advice

The smallest hair line crack or damage in the powder coat will allow tracking of corrosion under the coating and it will flake quickly. A good zinc primer (oil based) and quality oil based paint on top.....But NEVER NEVER NEVER Powder Coat it.

Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 14th February 10:43
You wouldn't prime bare aluminium with the same paint as ferrous.

Steve H

5,260 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Pretty sure mine came primered and I gave them a coat of hammerite, 15 years later they don't have the same gloss finish but look good and have matured in well biggrin

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Evoluzione said:
You wouldn't prime bare aluminium with the same paint as ferrous.
True.

Edit: Etch primer after a phosphate wash down

onedsla

1,114 posts

256 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Why do you believe it needs completely replacing?

We recently had our roof replaced in our ~120 year old house and had the guttering overhauled at the same time (having spent £4k in scaffold, it made sense). Very little actually needed replacing - it was more a case of re-jointing and bitumen paint on the inside.

andy43

9,687 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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As above - unless it's cracked you can refurb it all - strip paint, reseal and repaint.
Matching old profiles to current repro stuff could be tricky though - if it's ogee/a fancy shape you might have to replace entire runs.

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Sunday 14th February 2016
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onedsla said:
Why do you believe it needs completely replacing?

We recently had our roof replaced in our ~120 year old house and had the guttering overhauled at the same time (having spent £4k in scaffold, it made sense). Very little actually needed replacing - it was more a case of re-jointing and bitumen paint on the inside.
Good point, it's more to do with the faff of scaffolding being in place to do external painting and there are a few leaks and badly rusty patches evident on the bits visible from windows and from the ground. I want to future proof by doing everything at height that might need doing over the next 30 or 40 years....we're planning to stay here for life.