Staircase renovation

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jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Tuesday 15th March 2016
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I live in Surrey, just had 2 big brand specialist companies in to quote for renovating a staircase. Quotes were £8k and £9.6k.
It's a simple staircase, 3 steps and a corner and 13 more. Glass balustrade on one side and 2x 2 metres of balcony balustrade at the top. Oak newels and veneer over strings
I costed this in parts at more like £1500. Although I may have overlooked some bits...
Is this really specialist work, replacing newel posts etc?
Or should a good chippie be able to do it?

russell_ram

321 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th March 2016
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Completely DIY-able so easily in the realms of a decent carpenter.

Having never done it before and not being in the trade: from this





and this (I used Stairbox.com but plenty of other choices)



to this







Edited by russell_ram on Tuesday 15th March 19:07


Edited by russell_ram on Wednesday 16th March 07:20

Craikeybaby

10,403 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Find a good local carpenter!

We've just had our staircase renovated and the carpenter who does it charges from £999 for newel posts, base rail, handrail and spindles including a return at the top. It's more if you want oak etc, but still sounds a lot cheaper than your quotes.

jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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I've just bought all the kit to do it myself, about £2000 all in including about £350 on tools! I am veneering the existing newels as it seems stupid to remove them really when they are in position & have the handrail mounting hardware attached already. The veneer is 15mm solid oak though so should be solid enough. Will post pics up! Big easter project & the Mrs. is nervous!!

Rosscow

8,755 posts

163 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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jakesmith said:
I've just bought all the kit to do it myself, about £2000 all in including about £350 on tools! I am veneering the existing newels as it seems stupid to remove them really when they are in position & have the handrail mounting hardware attached already. The veneer is 15mm solid oak though so should be solid enough. Will post pics up! Big easter project & the Mrs. is nervous!!
That's not veneer! hehe

jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Decided to DIY it, bought some cladding kits, baserails and handrails from Stairbox. £2.5k all in including glass, and about £250 on tools that I will keep

Before:



Nearly done... just waiting for the glass to come + relay carpet



Can add some during pics if of interest

minivanman

262 posts

190 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Great job! Definately post some pics up, its something I'm going to be doing at some point as well.

jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Before:



First test fitting of the cladding kit



Another cladding kit in position, this one took a full day to measure up, cut & fit



Homemade jig for routing out the recess for the handle mounting plate



Stair string veneer (took about 4 hours to measure out & cut)



In position



Nearly done... just waiting for the glass to come + relay carpet





Edited by jakesmith on Wednesday 13th April 23:10

NickGibbs

1,258 posts

231 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Well done!
We're all going to have to be more DIY handy as specialist rates keep climbing. Especially if the Poles leave!

dirty_dog

676 posts

176 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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That looks excellent. I had no idea you could get kits like that.

CoolHands

18,606 posts

195 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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jakesmith said:
Who's the nude in the mirror? whistle

jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Kate Moss of course!

Tahiti

987 posts

247 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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I like that job Jake. Nice.

jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Forgot to update but here it is, with new carpet


wibble cb

3,603 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Inspired by this build, I decided to change the look of one of my Newel posts, my house was last renovated circa 1987, so reflects that era, I wanted something a little more period.

How the existing newel post looked



I looked around for inspiration and decided a square newel post would suit my Edwardian abode, so set about cladding this one, as I didn't want to remove the one I had:

mid way through:

|https://thumbsnap.com/WrjKCa1M[/url]

Pretty much there now:



The top was a fencepost cap I found in a DIY store, the rest was some MDF I bought for the base panels and then some thinner veneer type sheets which I cut the window panels into, then trimmed those out with even smaller beading to create the inset panel.

Some pine offcuts and coving rounded out the build, I think I spent about 30 quid in total.


Next job will be the balusters, I want square ones, as I think they go with the square newel post better than the round ones.[url]

Edited by wibble cb on Friday 9th February 08:05

stirling37

113 posts

97 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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jakesmith said:
Decided to DIY it, bought some cladding kits, baserails and handrails from Stairbox. £2.5k all in including glass, and about £250 on tools that I will keep

Before:



Nearly done... just waiting for the glass to come + relay carpet



Can add some during pics if of interest
that looks amazing, its something i need to do myself. and ive me some insipiration, the veneer over the stringer worrys me, i know its going to take some time to get that right and it seems measure and then measure again and then measure again to get it right.

this is what i have to play with, i cut our newell posts down so i might replace with cheap round newell posts and then clad them like you did.

ive never used a router but i think thats a tool im going to need to buy to get this job done.

i had neville johnson in and they quoted 10k for oak and glass!!! stairbox ive roughly worked it out to be 2k
















Edited by stirling37 on Saturday 1st October 10:07

wibble cb

3,603 posts

207 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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just to round this out, I finished replacing the round spindles with the square ones....

started out like this:



The newel post was clad and painted, the old spindles were removed:



tada!:



And painted up:



Not a huge change, but I am happy with it/them!



Edited by wibble cb on Friday 9th February 08:13

BarryGibb

335 posts

147 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Jake, fantastic effort, looks great. I'm looking to refurbish with the end goal to have something similar to you - oak and glass. Mine should be slightly cheaper as I don't need to put as much on the landing. Been quoted £5k + VAT, but when an equivalent new staircase from Stairbox is ~£2k inc VAT, there appears to be a big margin for the refurb guys - materials must be ~£1500 tops.