Garage floor painting gone wrong

Garage floor painting gone wrong

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red_slr

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17,217 posts

189 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Spent last night painting the garage floor. Did not get much actually pained as spent the first hour or two sweeping it out. There was a lot of dust. I assume concrete dust. The garage is 9 years old.

Anyway, seemed fairly dust free. Gave it a good coat and left for 24 hours. Luckily only did about 30%.

Tonight went back in to carry on with the rest of it and thought I would give it another quick sweep... sweeping the area already done its coming straight off like a fine powder.

I assume the concrete is breaking up into dust?

Whats the best way forward? Some kind if seal?

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Do the floor with a PVA Seal ie its like wood glue dilute with water about 5 parts water to 1 of PVA Glue and sweep the garage with a broom using this as a wash that will seal it for you
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micky metro

304 posts

186 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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You need to seal the floor 1st, pva/water mix, unibond is ideal, wickes own make is cheaper.

red_slr

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17,217 posts

189 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Ahh... I have plenty of PVA from when I was doing some tiling.

So just brush it in ok thanks!

red_slr

Original Poster:

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189 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Should I try and remove the stuff that's not taken well?

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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red_slr said:
Should I try and remove the stuff that's not taken well?
No that will make an almighty mess let it dry brush again and seal


red_slr

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17,217 posts

189 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Its dry now, it just comes off with a gentle brush into a fine powder. Should I pva over the top of it or try and brush it off?

MoelyCrio

2,457 posts

182 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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What sort of paint is it? Only the two pack paints stay down for any length of time in my experience. The single tin stuff from the chain stores is hopeless.

V8RX7

26,827 posts

263 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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I used to suggest using PVA and water but some have had issues with it becoming a gloopy mess when it later gets wet.

You may get away with SBR but I'd play it safe and use the proper stuff - the clue's in the name "concrete sealer"

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Drumroll

3,755 posts

120 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Brushing may actually be making more dust. You need a good vacuum cleaner over the surface. PVA may not work depending on the type of paint. You may need to look at a surface hardener/sealer, before you do any painting.

Igurisu

146 posts

138 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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As drumroll said,ifound the sweeping never worked.pushing the brush over the concrete was like taking the surface off and creating more dust every time I did it. I vacuumed with an old Henry then poured a water and PVA mixture on the floor to seal it.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Yep, hoovered ours with a sacrificial hoover.

Though we did not use pva, did not know that we had to so just roller end the paint on as soon as hoovered.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

176 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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This has got good reviews, I bought a tin on Monday and painted half of my garage, it goes down well and after a few days seems really stuck down. The long term reviews are good also.

I just swept and vacumed my floor, no PVA. 25 year old garage.



http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-trade-floor-...

Muppet32

173 posts

180 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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IIRC it's recommended to etch the floor first with hydrochloric, to make sure of a good bond?

red_slr

Original Poster:

17,217 posts

189 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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This is the situation...

I don't really want to change the paint. I have a big drum of PVA... so I reckon that's going to be worth a go?




TonyToniTone

3,425 posts

249 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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I am in a similar situation and have ordered Concrete Hardener and Dustproofer, not had chance to use it yet..

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00133KZXU/ref...

Freedomfighter

169 posts

130 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Very simple. Seal with concrete sealer. Paint with two part epoxy paint.




fergus

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275 months

Far Cough

2,215 posts

168 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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RedSLr - Just done mine and had similar dusty issues and an original floor paint down that was coming up in places just like your photo. This is what I did ....

First step is to brush and then hoover as described above. Then put a slightly watered down version of PVA Bond down , maybe 80/20 - Put it on with a soft roller and soak the place. You want it to soak into all the nooks and crannies. Once dry reapply with a full strength PVA bond and leave to dry. This will seal all the dust in and give you a good base to lay paint.I added some masonary paint to my final coat of PVA for its latex content just to help the seal. I had some anyway, left over from the walls and ceiling.

The paint you choose is upto you. Whether you choose a traditional floor paint for the "painted" look or go for an epoxy resin 2 pack for the more smoother "Latex" look. Traditional floor paint you will need several coats.

Paints - Do it right , do it once - buy good stuff not cheapo bargain gear !

I am going to see if the traditional floor paint will handle a car driven across it and if not my backup plan is 2 pack epoxy clap