Carpentry power tools

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Harry Flashman

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19,386 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Chaps, I'd like to buy some bits for basic carpentry i.e. making shelving, coving, wood panelling etc. In the old days I would have used my trust mitre saw for cutting architrave etc, but in the spirit of PH, I need (well, want, anyway) to buy some power tools, which I can justify by telling myself I won't pay a carpenter to make stuff.

So, is this an adequate list? And any do buys/do not buys? They don't really need to be cordless as the work will be done in my workshop, rather than in situ. I have some Milwaukee 18v tools but went a bit pale when I saw how much their compatible circular saws were, for example...

- circular saw
- chop saw
- jigsaw
- electric sander
- work bench

What am I missing that's obvious?

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Router?

Harry Flashman

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19,386 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I never even knew a flipover saw existed!

I doubt I really need one though – I want to do panelling, shelving and perhaps an attempt at some fitted eaves furniture, as a keeping myself occupied at the weekend sort of thing. I think a circular saw with a guide will suffice for this sort of work (or getting the timber merchant to pre-cut some bits)

Router is a great idea too.

And yes, good clamps/workbench are a must.

bayleaf

285 posts

100 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Harry Flashman said:
I never even knew a flipover saw existed!

I doubt I really need one though – I want to do panelling, shelving and perhaps an attempt at some fitted eaves furniture, as a keeping myself occupied at the weekend sort of thing. I think a circular saw with a guide will suffice for this sort of work (or getting the timber merchant to pre-cut some bits)

Router is a great idea too.

And yes, good clamps/workbench are a must.
You don't need a guide on a CS - just clamp a straight edge on the piece you're cutting, accounting for the edge of shoe-blade distance and cut along that keeping the saw pressed up to the straight edge. Much better method.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

189 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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bayleaf said:
Harry Flashman said:
I never even knew a flipover saw existed!

I doubt I really need one though – I want to do panelling, shelving and perhaps an attempt at some fitted eaves furniture, as a keeping myself occupied at the weekend sort of thing. I think a circular saw with a guide will suffice for this sort of work (or getting the timber merchant to pre-cut some bits)

Router is a great idea too.

And yes, good clamps/workbench are a must.
You don't need a guide on a CS - just clamp a straight edge on the piece you're cutting, accounting for the edge of shoe-blade distance and cut along that keeping the saw pressed up to the straight edge. Much better method.
Or better still get a rail kit to go with the saw, even the cheaper Bosch circular saws are rail compatible now, and I keep thinking I should get one.

Drumroll

3,774 posts

121 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Good wood glue (Titebond etc)Japanese pull saw, Plane(s), Clamps lots of clamps.

Collectingbrass

2,220 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Have a look at what this guy uses most as a starter

http://www.newyankee.com/

(as I recall, mainly a table saw, router, sander and lots of clamps)

Buy from here: http://www.axminster.co.uk/

To the list above I would add dust extraction, a decent bench and a kettle!

pc.iow

1,879 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Plasters. You'll definatly need plasters.
Hilti is the new Dewalt now as well.

mgtony

4,022 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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As mentioned, a router or two! plus a router table. A biscuit jointer comes in useful. Orbital/random orbit sander and a bench disc/belt one is handy. Electric planer also should be on the list. smile

Simpo Two

85,599 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Harry Flashman said:
I never even knew a flipover saw existed!

I doubt I really need one though – I want to do panelling, shelving and perhaps an attempt at some fitted eaves furniture, as a keeping myself occupied at the weekend sort of thing. I think a circular saw with a guide will suffice for this sort of work (or getting the timber merchant to pre-cut some bits)

Router is a great idea too.

And yes, good clamps/workbench are a must.
The Evolution Rage 6 is a smaller, cheaper alternative. I find mine extremely useful.

My other essentials are a bandsaw and 12" disk sander. Other bench tools are a pillar drill and grinder. Hand tools used often are jigsaw, drill and multitool. Less often used are SDS drill, angle grinder and circular saw.

I almost never use a router - so it shows that what you use reflects you and what you plan to do.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

179 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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bayleaf said:
You don't need a guide on a CS - just clamp a straight edge on the piece you're cutting, accounting for the edge of shoe-blade distance and cut along that keeping the saw pressed up to the straight edge. Much better method.
Or better yet, make your own saw track. Saves having to mess about lining up the straight edge & takes some margin for error out.

Its just one bit of wood with a straight edge (usually just over a board width in length) glued & screwed on top of another piece of wood which is wider. Run the circular saw along it to trim the excess and you have a nice saw guide to use smile

Or just buy a track compatible saw, tracks are the way forwards and if you get a decent one you can do most table saw type cuts with them.

A table saw will always be better for lots of repeated operations etc but realistically a track saw is a good starting point for a DIY'er with spending a bag of sand on a decent table saw.

I've got the Dewalt circular saw with track base and a couple of lengths of track, it really is very good although with projects looming in the new abode I'm tempted to sell it and put a bit in to upgrade to the Festool saw biggrin

Harry Flashman

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19,386 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Well let me know if you do sell it to go to a table saw!

Chippo1

344 posts

124 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I have 2nd hand Dewalt 743 flip saw , it's the nuts , been around for years started life as an ELU , look for reviews on line


kambites

67,606 posts

222 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I'd second the suggestion of a router table. Incredibly useful things.

m4ckg

625 posts

192 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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pc.iow said:
Plasters. You'll definatly need plasters.
Hilti is the new Dewalt now as well.
Why is it?

pc.iow

1,879 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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m4ckg said:
pc.iow said:
Plasters. You'll definatly need plasters.
Hilti is the new Dewalt now as well.
Why is it?
Dewalt are a poor copy of what they once were.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

179 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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pc.iow said:
Dewalt are a poor copy of what they once were.
All my dewalt stuff is excellent and I keep buying it.

I've had a little 10.8v 3/8th drive impact gun that gets heavily abused daily at work and it's still just as good as the day I bought it bar the socket ring being a little slack but that happens to all impact guns over time.

Maybe the cheaper DIY stuff is a bit worse but I've not had an issue with anything I've bought.

m4ckg

625 posts

192 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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pc.iow said:
Dewalt are a poor copy of what they once were.
Dewalt have never been a match for Hilti

pc.iow

1,879 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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m4ckg said:
pc.iow said:
Dewalt are a poor copy of what they once were.
Dewalt have never been a match for Hilti
I know, It's Jimmyarm that need telling.

Cheburator mk2

2,996 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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pc.iow said:
I know, It's Jimmyarm that need telling.
Maybe I am missing something but when we totally refurbished our house - 240sqm of new 25mm ply floors everywhere, 3 new bathrooms, 75sqm of WUFH, new unvented hot water, boiler, windows, walls coming down etc HILTI easily came on top, FESTOOL a close second, FEIN for all the niggly stuff, DeWalt or Makita were not even allowed on site...