Rendering vs painting exterior
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Hi All
As part of my home renovation project, I am considering painting the exterior walls. At the moment, they have a pebble dash effect. Rendering was mentioned (waterproof mix, insulation, etc) but is it possible to paint the house now and then apply render later if/when needed? I.E. if the walls are in good condition now. I believe you can get clear, see-through rendering? I am looking to maybe paint now (as will need scaffolding for the windows) but render later.
Thanks!
As part of my home renovation project, I am considering painting the exterior walls. At the moment, they have a pebble dash effect. Rendering was mentioned (waterproof mix, insulation, etc) but is it possible to paint the house now and then apply render later if/when needed? I.E. if the walls are in good condition now. I believe you can get clear, see-through rendering? I am looking to maybe paint now (as will need scaffolding for the windows) but render later.
Thanks!
My house has a pebbledash type finish, I had a company come in and spraypaint it. its a 6 bed house, they spent half a day masking windows downpipes etc then sprayd the whole house in 2 days. They also covered the ground around the house with tarps and the roof
the cost was about half of the paint it quotes, pebbledash is a sod to paint, you have to work it in to do it properly,
the cost was about half of the paint it quotes, pebbledash is a sod to paint, you have to work it in to do it properly,
I've never heard of clear render, not sure how that would work? If you are changing the windows (you don't say if replacing or painting) then there will be damage to the reveals of the pebbledash. You are better to have these repaired as part of re-rendering if you're planning it anyway.
You can paint the pebble dash and then render over later, but your renderer will need to add a bonding coat between and even then it won't be a stable as without paint. You will then need to paint the new render. The painting will also cost less on smooth render as there will be less paint used and significantly less time! When I painted the front of mine it took ~2 hours for two of us to cover ~45m2 of smooth render (per coat), plus an hour or so at the beginning to mask up the windows.
So yes you could paint now, but it will cost you more in the long run.
You can paint the pebble dash and then render over later, but your renderer will need to add a bonding coat between and even then it won't be a stable as without paint. You will then need to paint the new render. The painting will also cost less on smooth render as there will be less paint used and significantly less time! When I painted the front of mine it took ~2 hours for two of us to cover ~45m2 of smooth render (per coat), plus an hour or so at the beginning to mask up the windows.
So yes you could paint now, but it will cost you more in the long run.
Rangeroverover said:
My house has a pebbledash type finish, I had a company come in and spraypaint it. its a 6 bed house, they spent half a day masking windows downpipes etc then sprayd the whole house in 2 days. They also covered the ground around the house with tarps and the roof
the cost was about half of the paint it quotes, pebbledash is a sod to paint, you have to work it in to do it properly,
I've been looking around for a firm to do this. Can you recall the approximate cost and was it a local (to you) firm. Thanksthe cost was about half of the paint it quotes, pebbledash is a sod to paint, you have to work it in to do it properly,
Hi All,
The house is post war but not sure on exact date.
I've not heard of spray painting a house, I'd be interested in more details on this.
I may be getting mixed up with render and clear weatherproof coating for exterior walls! The windows are being replaced. The big driver for this painting/rendering is that we are looking at golden oak windows and the colour of the walls (a worn out, dark yellow) is obviously awkward when it comes to matching with windows. My understanding is rendering is needed if it is worn out or weather proofing/insulation. Painting itself is usually for cosmetic reasons.
So I have two options:
Paint now and then rendering is required, apply render again and then paint on top. Not recommended as it will be on top of paint. Could a decorator remove all the paint before applying render?
Or...
Render now and paint.
The house is post war but not sure on exact date.
I've not heard of spray painting a house, I'd be interested in more details on this.
I may be getting mixed up with render and clear weatherproof coating for exterior walls! The windows are being replaced. The big driver for this painting/rendering is that we are looking at golden oak windows and the colour of the walls (a worn out, dark yellow) is obviously awkward when it comes to matching with windows. My understanding is rendering is needed if it is worn out or weather proofing/insulation. Painting itself is usually for cosmetic reasons.
So I have two options:
Paint now and then rendering is required, apply render again and then paint on top. Not recommended as it will be on top of paint. Could a decorator remove all the paint before applying render?
Or...
Render now and paint.
Two options as I see it: Get your new widows fitted, patch up any disturbed pebble dashing then paint or if you want a smooth render finish as opposed to pebble dashing hack off all the rendering back to brick, render then paint. Don't apply render on top of the pebble dashing. Total bodge job to be avoided.
If you paint it in a few years time you'll have to paint it again, if you render it then you'll have to paint it and then paint it again in a few years time. However Coloured Render is a gift from the gods, the colour runs all the way through and simply never needs to be painted, a pressure wash is about the most it should ever need (well till it needs re-rendering but then we're talking lots of years)
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