My *VERY* diy garden kitchen build, BBQ and pizza oven heavy
Discussion
Yes the wall will be double skinned on the retaining section, the soil is very solid and full of slate and the garden/woods has lots of steep non retained walls that havnt moved for years, so dont think it will be an issue.
Im going to make a heatsheld for the weber out of proper firebricks, so the wood wont be within scorching distance of anything hot.
21TonyK said:
Just an observation. The prep. space between the pizza oven and the webber is a tight corner. Going to get awful hot in there if both are fired up!
Maybe add portable island in the middle? Something that can be wheeled out for the summer and stored in winter? Something akin to a butchers block?
Edit: And the webber, does that sit "in" the top or just within a hole with an airspace between the bowl and the top? Just thinking about scorched timbers.
the walls are only worktop high (so good airflow) and the space is a little bigger than it looks on the pic, but yes it could get a little warm. There will also be some worktop space to either side of the pizza oven (the triangle gaps) so that will be extra worktop space. Maybe add portable island in the middle? Something that can be wheeled out for the summer and stored in winter? Something akin to a butchers block?
Edit: And the webber, does that sit "in" the top or just within a hole with an airspace between the bowl and the top? Just thinking about scorched timbers.
Edited by 21TonyK on Monday 15th August 10:21
Im going to make a heatsheld for the weber out of proper firebricks, so the wood wont be within scorching distance of anything hot.
Harry Flashman said:
The Weber Kettle, while looking cool, has one serious drawback - the grill is not height adjustable. I barely use mine anymore, preferring a much cheaper barbecue I have where you can move the grill up and down...
One day...http://gauchogarcia.com/
real bbq, not sure its worth three grand though!
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I've been thinking of making a built-in BBQ in our garden and using an old off-cut of granite we have as a work top.
I really like the idea of the BBQ being flush with the worktop like this but not many people seem to build them this way.
The downsides I can see are that getting a height adjustable coal rack is harder than a height adjustable grill and I will probably have to forgo the lid, but we rarely use it when using our current BBQ anyway.
Am I missing any other issues with building it like this?
I really like the idea of the BBQ being flush with the worktop like this but not many people seem to build them this way.
The downsides I can see are that getting a height adjustable coal rack is harder than a height adjustable grill and I will probably have to forgo the lid, but we rarely use it when using our current BBQ anyway.
Am I missing any other issues with building it like this?
alock said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I've been thinking of making a built-in BBQ in our garden and using an old off-cut of granite we have as a work top.
I really like the idea of the BBQ being flush with the worktop like this but not many people seem to build them this way.
The downsides I can see are that getting a height adjustable coal rack is harder than a height adjustable grill and I will probably have to forgo the lid, but we rarely use it when using our current BBQ anyway.
Am I missing any other issues with building it like this?
I looked at using granite for some sections of my worktops but apparently it can crack with heat, and your design would get very hot.I really like the idea of the BBQ being flush with the worktop like this but not many people seem to build them this way.
The downsides I can see are that getting a height adjustable coal rack is harder than a height adjustable grill and I will probably have to forgo the lid, but we rarely use it when using our current BBQ anyway.
Am I missing any other issues with building it like this?
Ive no first hand experiance, and im sure it would be fine, but something to look into.
Indeed me too, I've got as far as acquiring the BBQ's (Weber Kettle and a Brinkmann Smoker) and I've negototiated a nice spot in the garden by the stream / waterfall.
Thinking slate for a prep surface and a set of more freestanding BBQ's plus some sort of bottle lift for dunking and chilling bottles..
Thinking slate for a prep surface and a set of more freestanding BBQ's plus some sort of bottle lift for dunking and chilling bottles..
Lesgrandepotato said:
With no lid how will you cook indirect for Chicken etc? or are you just looking to scorch some snorkers?
We generally don't BBQ things like that anymore. It's just grilling sausages, burgers, steaks, etc... There would be nothing stopping me putting a loose lid on like we have on our weber portable kettle which we take camping.21TonyK said:
Harry Flashman said:
The Weber Kettle, while looking cool, has one serious drawback - the grill is not height adjustable. I barely use mine anymore, preferring a much cheaper barbecue I have where you can move the grill up and down...
One day...http://gauchogarcia.com/
real bbq, not sure its worth three grand though!
Its a grill.
RevsPerMinute said:
21TonyK said:
Harry Flashman said:
The Weber Kettle, while looking cool, has one serious drawback - the grill is not height adjustable. I barely use mine anymore, preferring a much cheaper barbecue I have where you can move the grill up and down...
One day...http://gauchogarcia.com/
real bbq, not sure its worth three grand though!
Its a grill.
shakotan said:
RevsPerMinute said:
21TonyK said:
Harry Flashman said:
The Weber Kettle, while looking cool, has one serious drawback - the grill is not height adjustable. I barely use mine anymore, preferring a much cheaper barbecue I have where you can move the grill up and down...
One day...http://gauchogarcia.com/
real bbq, not sure its worth three grand though!
Its a grill.
Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
RevsPerMinute said:
The assumption that they are interchangeable terms is defiantly not from America!
Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
In my electric oven the element for the grill is above the rack so I am cooking quickly under a moderate-to-high direct heat. Am I still grilling? Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
Berz said:
RevsPerMinute said:
The assumption that they are interchangeable terms is defiantly not from America!
Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
In my electric oven the element for the grill is above the rack so I am cooking quickly under a moderate-to-high direct heat. Am I still grilling? Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
RevsPerMinute said:
Berz said:
RevsPerMinute said:
The assumption that they are interchangeable terms is defiantly not from America!
Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
In my electric oven the element for the grill is above the rack so I am cooking quickly under a moderate-to-high direct heat. Am I still grilling? Grill- To cook quickly over moderate-to-high direct heat.
BBQ - To cook slowly using low indirect heat.
Sorry to be pedantic but they are both very different methods of cooking, often you can grill on BBQ but rarely can you BBQ on a grill.
Whilst the grille on the Weber isn’t adjustable, the heat output is pretty adjustable, using the top and bottom vents. To that end, is it worth the OP considering:
1 Maybe using a mastertouch (dumps ash out of the bottom so could be tidier) and
2 Making sure there’s airflow underneath the Weber once it’s built in?
Rather enjoying the look of this thread. My back garden is tiny-tiny-tiny so projects on this scale are rather interesting!
1 Maybe using a mastertouch (dumps ash out of the bottom so could be tidier) and
2 Making sure there’s airflow underneath the Weber once it’s built in?
Rather enjoying the look of this thread. My back garden is tiny-tiny-tiny so projects on this scale are rather interesting!
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