How to move a 700kg pallet down stairs and across grass
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Obviously the dangerous bit is getting it down the slope. 700kg is a lot and the slopes are properly steep. If it starts to get away from you, you're stuffed, and there will be a dangerous amount of tension in any ropes and cables. Using a car and winch is marginal. A quad is far too light. I'd want that pallet on the floor when it's going down a slope, not dangling from a hoist, not in a motorised barrow (even though they are awesome).
I'd be thinking about using the trampoline route, maybe a winch via some pulleys to get some mechanical advantage, anchor the winch/car to something very solid. And try to avoid ever getting the oven lower than its final resting place. Can you getting some scaffolding where your "trampoline" is to let you slide it across into its final resting place?
Is there no way of making a route to the garden? By far the easiest thing would be to get local farmer to sling it under the load bucket of a full size tractor and drive it down a moderate slope.
I'd be thinking about using the trampoline route, maybe a winch via some pulleys to get some mechanical advantage, anchor the winch/car to something very solid. And try to avoid ever getting the oven lower than its final resting place. Can you getting some scaffolding where your "trampoline" is to let you slide it across into its final resting place?
Is there no way of making a route to the garden? By far the easiest thing would be to get local farmer to sling it under the load bucket of a full size tractor and drive it down a moderate slope.
Edited by ATG on Wednesday 17th August 08:27
All that jazz said:
hidetheelephants said:
You want a tracked flatbed power barrow like this.
I was about to reply to the thread telling the OP to forget it because there's no chance of getting that where he wants it, but that thing is genius! Certainly insta-solves the first 2 issues (if one turns a blind eye to max payload numbers.. ) and I'm sure you can hire an engine crane for getting it in and out of the barrow. You really should have thought about the logistics of moving a 0.75 tonne fragile "rock" about before you decided to buy it though.sidekickdmr said:
hidetheelephants said:
You want a tracked flatbed power barrow like this.
Don't know how it would cope with stairs and also don't know how it would get onto the base still though 
An alternative would be to lower it down the steep slope directly above where it's going, probably with sheets of plywood underneath to ease the way, using a tirfor or similar(if you have a mate with a 4x4 and winch that would do too) anchored to a convenient tree or a car(heavier is better) if a tree is not available.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Wednesday 17th August 08:45
For me the answer is an A-frame on the top drive, block and tackle to get the oven into the air, very gradual easing of the A-Frame over the edge, anchored to the ground, twice, and then lowering the oven on the block and tackle.
Would your local army cadets fancy it as a training exercise?
ETA: I LOVE that this is a question without an answer, yet the oven is already bought, paid for, and sitting in the way on your drive! Have you admitted to your good lady that as yet you haven't a clue about Phase II?
Would your local army cadets fancy it as a training exercise?
ETA: I LOVE that this is a question without an answer, yet the oven is already bought, paid for, and sitting in the way on your drive! Have you admitted to your good lady that as yet you haven't a clue about Phase II?
SpeckledJim said:
ETA: I LOVE that this is a question without an answer, yet the oven is already bought, paid for, and sitting in the way on your drive! Have you admitted to your good lady that as yet you haven't a clue about Phase II?
Absolutely 100% not hidetheelephants said:
Rosscow said:
Just hire a suitable crane and driver, it might cost a few quid but you won't kill anyone and you won's break anything!
A bit boring and the OP seems reluctant to splash out; if there's a hire firm locally he might get it done for £300-400.I love that there are people out there who just get on and do stuff, but personally I couldn't stand doing things your way which seems to boil down to making a mess of your garden and spending lots of money on stuff before asking a forum full of car nerds how to make it all work!
Good luck for the rest of the project.
Good luck for the rest of the project.
groomi said:
I love that there are people out there who just get on and do stuff, but personally I couldn't stand doing things your way which seems to boil down to making a mess of your garden and spending lots of money on stuff before asking a forum full of car nerds how to make it all work!
Good luck for the rest of the project.
Sometimes its the only way. My old boss was very much a just get on with it sort, it served him well his company is worth well over 10 mill. Some people think too hard about things.Good luck for the rest of the project.
sidekickdmr said:
To be fair, I was told it would arrive on a Hiab......
Which would have at least been able to get it at garden level as further down its less steep/tall.
Lots of Hiabs can't go below ground level and most delivery drivers wouldn't attempt it - kerbside only.Which would have at least been able to get it at garden level as further down its less steep/tall.
You can get huge lorry mounted ones - my scaffolder has one.
You could perhaps use one and pick it up on a long rope which would cater for the drop.
hidetheelephants said:
Rosscow said:
Just hire a suitable crane and driver, it might cost a few quid but you won't kill anyone and you won's break anything!
A bit boring and the OP seems reluctant to splash out; if there's a hire firm locally he might get it done for £300-400.I have my HIAB ticket as I do driving work for Marshalls and the extent of the crane is limited to pretty much down the side of the truck/trailer. You can't force it to go any further either because they lock out once they reach their limits. As I say, for where you want it you've no chance of any kind of HIAB or lorry mounted crane. Absolutely 0.
Edited by All that jazz on Wednesday 17th August 10:24
The Spruce goose said:
without ending up killing someone I would get a crane, as anything else just will end up on YouTube.
Rosscow said:
Just hire a suitable crane and driver, it might cost a few quid but you won't kill anyone and you won's break anything!
Another vote for the crane. If you really want this in place it's the only halfway-sensible option. How much was the oven itself? Me, I hate the namby-pambyness of H&S at the best of times but it strikes me that if you don't use a crane, the best outcome is going to be a broken pizza oven, unless you're very lucky, and the worst outcome will be a lot, erm, worse. Those steps look very steep. Have you tried ringing around a few crane companies? If you're flexible on days/times, you might find one who can fit the job in on the way back from another, or some similar scenario?
Over 4000 years ago the Egyptians built the pyramids. Ok ok, I know they had slave labour and limitless resources for the times, but still...
Use the old method, get 3 big rolling logs, secure the oven to the pallet well with cargo straps, secure that to a suitably anchored winch at top of hill and just slowly roll the bugger down the stairs and hill.
Obviously get someone to film it.
Use the old method, get 3 big rolling logs, secure the oven to the pallet well with cargo straps, secure that to a suitably anchored winch at top of hill and just slowly roll the bugger down the stairs and hill.
Obviously get someone to film it.
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