Japanese knotweed

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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/28/homeown...


There was a thread here not long ago about some chap. Considering buying a house close to the railway with this pest growing out of control not too far away.

I'd say this article should make that posters decision

Marvtec

421 posts

160 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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But every potential sale fell through when buyers had a second viewing or ordered a survey.

"I think they must have known," said Mrs Akhtar


No! Who'd notice a 12ft knotweed jungle?

TeaNoSugar

1,241 posts

166 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Just resurrecting this old thread because I noticed some suspicious looking plants on some overgrown land just beyond the end of my garden. Looks unfortunately like knotweed:







The leaves look a little bit narrow but the stems have those little red patches which makes me think it could well be knotweed.

We're thinking of getting the house valued and moving in the next 6 months, just wondering if anyone knows whether this will affect things?

The garden is about 25m long and as yet it doesn't appear to be growing through to our side of the boundary, but it is a bit of a concern!

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Who owns the land with it on?

TeaNoSugar

1,241 posts

166 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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I don't know, It's at the back of some ancient looking garages between two houses on a road that runs roughly parallel to mine, but quite a bit lower down. The land has been overgrown for the last 7 years (as long as I've lived here) but that knotweed hasnt been there long, I only noticed it this morning because my dog was trying to climb the wall to get over into that land. Previously it was all general weeds and bramble - the knotweed has pretty much taken over from the bramble. You know something's bad when it can out-compete established bramble.

Wacky Racer

38,173 posts

248 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Might be wrong, but that does not look like Japanese knotweed to me, Knotweed has heart shaped leaves and green shoots with traces of red in them and NO thorns.

Equus

16,947 posts

102 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Images look very much like knotweed to me.

Welshbeef

Original Poster:

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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They look like he knotweed I've seen previously.


Surely this is one to report to the council asap ?though alerting the agencies would then flag up on any due dilligence your buyers would be doing.

Tricky.

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Sorry to see this.

Whatever do you do to control it?

knotweed

1,981 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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That's definitely knotweed.

How far is it away from your land? It can spread up to 7 m underground and if the other landowner allowed it to spread outside of their land they would be breaking the law. If it isn't that close then there might not be much you can do. It might be worth mentioning it them if you're worried (I would).

TeaNoSugar

1,241 posts

166 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
Might be wrong, but that does not look like Japanese knotweed to me, Knotweed has heart shaped leaves and green shoots with traces of red in them and NO thorns.
That last photo is deceptive, the jagged edged leaves are another plant. I was trying to get a close-up of the stems because they do have small red flecks which haven't shown up very well in the photo.

I'm fairly sure it is knotweed now. I will speak to the people living in the houses either side of the garage. It could be council land - that might be the best result as they'll have to clear it pretty quickly. If the landowners won't remove Im quite prepared to do it myself, dig it all out and burn the lot!

Wiccan of Darkness

1,839 posts

84 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Ooh st, that looks very much like knotweed, I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Alert the council asap, it's the landowners responsibility.

That stuff is a bd to control.

Knotweed grows on the side of volcanoes in Japan, in the UK it has no restrictions. It puts rhizomes down to 3m deep and grows at an eye watering rate.

Weaken it by constantly chopping back, and burning. Small bits 1 gram in weight can take root, don't even think about composting it, or taking it in bags to the local tip. Pile it all up, burn it, pour diesel on it.

Spray with Azural, it's a farm weedkiller, expensive to buy but is potassium glyphosate and not sodium, so a bit more poke to it. Spray new growth with azural. Keep chopping, burning and spraying. Ask a nearby farmer to buy you some, it's not on sale to the public.

It will take 3-5 years to eradicate. Alternatively, use a JCB to dig it all out, down to 5m depth, and burn the soil and plants.

The country is full of weedy lazy fkwits who spray it once or twice, then blame the council for everything, whining 'why doesn't someone do something' and can't be arsed to stick at it for 5 years.

Chop, burn, spray. Chop, burn, spray. Once it's chopped, spray the new growth, so leave it a week or two - that way the weedkiller gets into the plant. The chopping and burning merely weakens the plant enough to allow the weedkiller to kill it.

Wiccan of Darkness

1,839 posts

84 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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TeaNoSugar said:
. If the landowners won't remove Im quite prepared to do it myself, dig it all out and burn the lot!
You'll need a JCB to dig it out. The roots go down 3 metres, so excavate to 5 metres. It is a right PITA but if you take on a militant attitude, declare war and relish and enjoy the slaughter, you'll do OK.

TeaNoSugar

1,241 posts

166 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
TeaNoSugar said:
. If the landowners won't remove Im quite prepared to do it myself, dig it all out and burn the lot!
You'll need a JCB to dig it out. The roots go down 3 metres, so excavate to 5 metres. It is a right PITA but if you take on a militant attitude, declare war and relish and enjoy the slaughter, you'll do OK.
Hmmm - could be tricky, the land beyond the end of our gardens slopes down at about a 1in3 gradient and is completely overgrown. I think I'll just start by finding out who owns the land and explain what's growing there. Fortunately it's about 25m from the nearest houses (mine and my next door neighbours).

Trif

748 posts

174 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Aren't there injections you can use to kill knotweed? Seems much easier to execute (sorry) then digging and burning on someone else's land...

Wiccan of Darkness

1,839 posts

84 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Yes, you can pour neat glyphosate into the stems or inject it. But it doesn't kill the plant, again it's part of a long campaign of hatred against the weed.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/monster-japanese-weed-gr...

These wkers put salt and bleach on it - once - and now are wailing and pouting and looking all cross with their arms folded because it didn't die off. FFS some people should be culled for the benefit of humanity.

TeaNoSugar

1,241 posts

166 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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I found out who owns the land - an elderly chap who's apparently away for the rest of the summer (according to his neighbour). Went into his piece of land to have a closer look. fk knows how we'll get all this dealt with!!



Most of what you can see at the centre of that vegetation is knotweed. I reckon the area is about 6m x 4m and some it looks to be about 3m tall! And to add to the problem it's on top of an ancient retaining wall about 2-3m high.


Andehh

7,112 posts

207 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Report to the council, see what they say/advise. See if neighbors can put you in contact with him/anyone else in his family?

Wiccan of Darkness

1,839 posts

84 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Yes to contacting the council, but also get in touch with landowners family as the landowner will have to foot the bill. Don't hang around on this. As soon as possible, start spraying, at the very least it will kill all the foliage apart from the knot weed; then you'll get a better idea of how far it spreads.

skilly1

2,702 posts

196 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Used to Inject with tordon 22k but just noticed it is now banned. There are alternatives. You can get rid of easily in 24 months. Keep a log of what you do and take pics. Used the right chemicals or use a progressional and it's not too bad. Issue will be damage already done.