Critique this house
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Don't know local values as I'm in Devon, so can't comment
questions
1) Is there a gas supply, if so good news gas combi boilers way way cheaper than oil, also you can ditch the oil tank
2) Have a walk up the street, I can't tell the pitch of the roof from the images but have a look for velux or dormer windows, see if anyone else has created more space in the loft
3) I have PMed you a Rightmove Plus report on all 3 similar 3 beds within 0.25mile that have been marketed/sold
4) There is a similar house without the large garage coming on the market on Monday for less money, either look at that or use it as a stick to beat the vendor with
5)I agree about kerb appeal
6) remember whenever you offer on a house the agent is "Selling" you to the vendor, if you come accross as uber organised with everything to do with the transaction in hand and it looks like it will be painless the agent will want you to be the buyer
questions
1) Is there a gas supply, if so good news gas combi boilers way way cheaper than oil, also you can ditch the oil tank
2) Have a walk up the street, I can't tell the pitch of the roof from the images but have a look for velux or dormer windows, see if anyone else has created more space in the loft
3) I have PMed you a Rightmove Plus report on all 3 similar 3 beds within 0.25mile that have been marketed/sold
4) There is a similar house without the large garage coming on the market on Monday for less money, either look at that or use it as a stick to beat the vendor with
5)I agree about kerb appeal
6) remember whenever you offer on a house the agent is "Selling" you to the vendor, if you come accross as uber organised with everything to do with the transaction in hand and it looks like it will be painless the agent will want you to be the buyer
jonwm said:
lunarscope said:
I find it hard to believe the price of houses 'down South'.
That property would be £120K in my town on the North Wales coast.
I though the same, a strong £169k in my village just outside tamworth That property would be £120K in my town on the North Wales coast.
Rangeroverover said:
Don't know local values as I'm in Devon, so can't comment
questions
1) Is there a gas supply, if so good news gas combi boilers way way cheaper than oil, also you can ditch the oil tank
2) Have a walk up the street, I can't tell the pitch of the roof from the images but have a look for velux or dormer windows, see if anyone else has created more space in the loft
3) I have PMed you a Rightmove Plus report on all 3 similar 3 beds within 0.25mile that have been marketed/sold
4) There is a similar house without the large garage coming on the market on Monday for less money, either look at that or use it as a stick to beat the vendor with
5)I agree about kerb appeal
6) remember whenever you offer on a house the agent is "Selling" you to the vendor, if you come accross as uber organised with everything to do with the transaction in hand and it looks like it will be painless the agent will want you to be the buyer
Thanks for that. Very helpful.questions
1) Is there a gas supply, if so good news gas combi boilers way way cheaper than oil, also you can ditch the oil tank
2) Have a walk up the street, I can't tell the pitch of the roof from the images but have a look for velux or dormer windows, see if anyone else has created more space in the loft
3) I have PMed you a Rightmove Plus report on all 3 similar 3 beds within 0.25mile that have been marketed/sold
4) There is a similar house without the large garage coming on the market on Monday for less money, either look at that or use it as a stick to beat the vendor with
5)I agree about kerb appeal
6) remember whenever you offer on a house the agent is "Selling" you to the vendor, if you come accross as uber organised with everything to do with the transaction in hand and it looks like it will be painless the agent will want you to be the buyer
1) no gas supply
2) no other houses of this style on the road
3) thanks for that. I actually live within that 0.25 radius atm
4) is that the one I linked to earlier? If so that's what I live in current (although not that one!). They are in a large ex council estate opposed to set back off the road if you know what I mean
6) great advice again. Thanks.
rb5er said:
jonwm said:
lunarscope said:
I find it hard to believe the price of houses 'down South'.
That property would be £120K in my town on the North Wales coast.
I though the same, a strong £169k in my village just outside tamworth That property would be £120K in my town on the North Wales coast.
I would never live in a house joined onto another again
Still never understood the Southern house prices. I know that wages are not double what the North is, so why are the costs of living ? A 70's semi with tiles on the front face would be ex-council round here. 100-120k max.
Would spending 278k + 30-40k getting it nice make you happy ? If yes, go for it. Your money.
Edited by MDMA . on Saturday 3rd September 12:52
Kitchen needs gutting.
I would want to convert that conservatory/utility room to a proper extension.
Lounge needs the brick feature removing and re-decorate
Wardrobes in bedroom need to go too, or at least the doors.
If there is no gas there is no central heating - so storage heaters & immersion heater or oil ? expensive. You can install CH etc but its money I don't think you'd see back on sale as many would expect it to have it anyway.
I'd say you need £30k on top of purchase price.
Rooms look to be a fair size (no sizes on listing) and looks nice and light.
As someone said its fairly unremarkable really.
For those not in the area, I found this as a similar property: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... so in terms of space you can see why OP is keen. Another one with more garage/parking space, a bit more money and an awful lot more work : http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
OP: What about this, garage looks decent (26'), has central heating already installed may not be to individual taste but it looks like a recent renovation : http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
I would want to convert that conservatory/utility room to a proper extension.
Lounge needs the brick feature removing and re-decorate
Wardrobes in bedroom need to go too, or at least the doors.
If there is no gas there is no central heating - so storage heaters & immersion heater or oil ? expensive. You can install CH etc but its money I don't think you'd see back on sale as many would expect it to have it anyway.
I'd say you need £30k on top of purchase price.
Rooms look to be a fair size (no sizes on listing) and looks nice and light.
As someone said its fairly unremarkable really.
For those not in the area, I found this as a similar property: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... so in terms of space you can see why OP is keen. Another one with more garage/parking space, a bit more money and an awful lot more work : http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
OP: What about this, garage looks decent (26'), has central heating already installed may not be to individual taste but it looks like a recent renovation : http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
S10GTA said:
If we went for this we wouldn't have much disposable income to do loads of work.
The kitchen is dated
Likewise the lounge.
It has zero kerb appeal and would be hard to give it some.The kitchen is dated
Likewise the lounge.
Front door being on the side is also a huge downside it terms of look / feel IMO
It needs loads of work and you haven't got the money to do it.
Not knowing what else is available in the area / prices but what's the upside ?
48Valves said:
If the wife isn't happy now. She never will be. Especially if you are sinking all of your disposable income into the house YOU wanted because of its garage.
^ This. Recipe for disaster forcing your OH into a house she doesn't like. As you're stretching budget to the limit and beyond too then you'll be in a constant argument loop with her over not having any cash to renovate and redecorate it and she'll use the "I never wanted this place anyway" argument at every given opportunity. Also, as you're stretching your finances to the limit, what you gonna do when the interest rates eventually rise? Buying with the interest rates as they are now means you should be leaving yourself a couple of hundred a month continguency money for if/when they rise otherwise it could get rather sticky.Personally for that money I'd want it to be modern decor, GCH and its own driveway.
Marvtec said:
A very stuck in the 70s semi for £278k!
Kitchen very dated, horrible fake beams and artex combo. Fireplace is vile! Horrible concrete tile cladding on the front.
Edit: Oil heating too which although cheap atm wont always be
This. It's a gut job in my view. You'd need to rip it all out and start over.Kitchen very dated, horrible fake beams and artex combo. Fireplace is vile! Horrible concrete tile cladding on the front.
Edit: Oil heating too which although cheap atm wont always be
Edited by Marvtec on Saturday 3rd September 11:36
S10GTA said:
Pretty resounding no then.
MIL loved it, thought Mrs was mad saying no. Garden is a contentious issue tho, and you've all made good points in the thread.
Few images I took when visiting with MIL
We're all different and it might be the ideal house for you, not us.MIL loved it, thought Mrs was mad saying no. Garden is a contentious issue tho, and you've all made good points in the thread.
Few images I took when visiting with MIL
Think of it as the comments here making sure you go in with your eyes open. I can see the attraction of the garage from that latest picture.
Given it appears to be empty occupancy, do you have any feeling for what the vendor will accept for it ?
Do your sums - how long will it take for you to get it in to a condition that is acceptable to you and (probably more importantly) the missus ?
Will she kill you before you get it done ?
If you ignored the gatage, would you still be buying it ? Does it stack up against others in the same price band ?
Dunno what else youre looking at for the price but its a pretty pokey box beyond the decent sized lounge, and as said its at refurb point, most of that 70s/80s stuff will be at end of life. youll be finding the kitchen falling to bits if you're not carefull and plumbers making teeth sucking noises at your heating sys.
Needs a lot of work! The 'utility room' conservatory thing is pretty rubbish, and a strange place to put it, where it doesn't make best use of the garden aspect and limits light to the kitchen. Long term I'd want to open that up with a proper extension, so then you think is it worth spending money having a new kitchen or is it better to do it all now in one go! I.e. could get expensive!
I'd prefer a level garden (especially for kids), but that might be personal preference.
I'd prefer a level garden (especially for kids), but that might be personal preference.
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