First Restoration. South Manchester Victorian Terrace

First Restoration. South Manchester Victorian Terrace

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Parabola

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1,849 posts

198 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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This card makes me crack up with laughter every time I see it!


I thought this was interesting...

The old couple who sold us the house said her dad had bought the house when it was first built. So it has only had two owners from before us.

The old lady who they rented it to had lived there her whole life, and her parents had rented it from new!

Can't be many 'two owner/two renter from new' house's of that age!



Anyone know how I can find out when the house was built? I'm guessing about 1910?


dbdb

4,327 posts

174 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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That is remarkable really.

I like the card!

Parabola

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198 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Took the old kitchen out. The wall mounted cupboard was a mare to get off. Whoever installed it did an excellent job!

The back wall was a bit of a nightmare to strip. There was a thick yellow paint/plaster mix. i think I'll leave it and see how the plasterer wants it left.
It's one of the two walls in the house that has a little damp, so I'll see what thy say too.
















The chimney (On the right in the first picture) will be coming out soon. Should make a nice big room knocking through.
The back door will be swapped for a window and big doors will go in the dining room window space.

Parabola

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198 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Would I need a structural engineers report before the builders remove the chimney?
One builder says yes, and another says no!

The complete chimney will be coming out, and the slates on the roof replaced. It's not a shared chimney and the floorboards run parallel with the wall across the kitchen.

Other houses on the street have had the chimney removed, were all 20+ years ago though!

Harry Flashman

19,384 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Not sure. Chimney breat, definitely, but chimney?

I'd talk to an engineer anyway, to at least find out. Builders, I have discovered, often do not know anything like as much as they should.

Parabola

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1,849 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Our first baby arrived (A little early) last Wednesday, so not been in the house much!

The electrician has started the rewire.
Was nervewracking choosing where the power sockets go. I don't want to get this wrong!

Any advice? I've planned loads in, but it's not too late to change stuff.

I'm also having a run put up to the loft for if we ever get it converted into a bedroom.

Having an alarm and an outside light in the yard too.

Edited by Parabola on Tuesday 22 November 21:05

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Congratulations!

With regards to sockets, you'll need more than you think! My wife scoffed at how many I'd specced, but in the living room, kitchen and master bedroom we're needing to swap plugs around daily. It is mainly a case of thinking what devices you use and how you use them - for instance, we have a double socket each side of the beds, for a light and a phone charger. We should have had at least a double socket next to the wife's dressing table, as she has straighteners and hairdryer etc.

Make sure you check that they do the run up to the loft, I specced it for the same reason, but it was only a few months after the electrician had left that I realised they hadn't fitted it.

One other thing that may be worth considering is provision for an electric car charger - while I had the ceiling down recently I ran a suitably thick cable from the fuse board to the porch, I don't have an electric car now, but can only see them getting more popular in the next few years.

skinnyman

1,641 posts

94 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Muchos sockets!

When we moved in it had a single double socket in the kitchen, that was it! Kettle, toaster, all gone. Since had another 2 doubles installed, should probably of had more.

There's a single either side of the bed too, each one now has a triple plug plugged in, lamp either side, phone charger, tablet charger, etc etc.

dxg

8,221 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Parabola said:
There a patch of land at the end of the Cul de sac that the council has given to street. A bit longer than a tennis court.
The four council houses behind it complained their gardens were too big, so the council halved their gardens size!

It's now a communal garden for the residents of our street. So happy with this. Had a little gathering there on bonfire night.

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Now, there's something with a value that can't be expressed with pound signs...



MDMA .

8,905 posts

102 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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brings back memories of our first house. if you're thinking it was built in 1910, it's not a Victorian property ( that period ended 1901 ). ours was an Edwardian town house ( 1904 ) so yours could fall under the Edwardian period if built when you think.

we stripped back to bare brick, ceilings down, full re-wire and new plumbing. was 10 months hard work but worth it in the end. one thing I would recommend is to take all the old plaster off. we left a couple of rooms as it looked ok and just skimmed over. ended up taking it back to brick after a few years and it makes quite a mess in your newly painted / decorated house.

good luck anyway smile

Edited by MDMA . on Wednesday 23 November 12:59

dxg

8,221 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Parabola said:
Our first baby arrived (A little early) last Wednesday, so not been in the house much!

The electrician has started the rewire.
Was nervewracking choosing where the power sockets go. I don't want to get this wrong!

Any advice? I've planned loads in, but it's not too late to change stuff.

I'm also having a run put up to the loft for if we ever get it converted into a bedroom.

Having an alarm and an outside light in the yard too.

Edited by Parabola on Tuesday 22 November 21:05
Make sure your cooker switch is far enough away from the hob that it won't get in the way of the splashback.

(I thought I was being clever reusing an existing socket location, forgetting that the hob was moving...)

And if you have a single socket for the washing machine, swap it to a double or get another installed. It's useful having power available below the worktop level - for future things like plinth lighting.

Parabola

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1,849 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Craikeybaby said:
Congratulations!

With regards to sockets, you'll need more than you think!

Make sure you check that they do the run up to the loft, I specced it for the same reason, but it was only a few months after the electrician had left that I realised they hadn't fitted it.

One other thing that may be worth considering is provision for an electric car charger - while I had the ceiling down recently I ran a suitably thick cable from the fuse board to the porch, I don't have an electric car now, but can only see them getting more popular in the next few years.
Sound will do! Have added a couple more sockets.

We're having a light put in the loft too, so should be easy to check.

Not sure where we'd put a car charger, wire outside would have to run across the pavement to charge a car?

MDMA . said:
brings back memories of our first house. if you're thinking it was built in 1910, it's not a Victorian property ( that period ended 1901 ). ours was an Edwardian town house ( 1904 ) so yours could fall under the Edwardian period if built when you think.

we stripped back to bare brick, ceilings down, full re-wire and new plumbing. was 10 months hard work but worth it in the end. one thing I would recommend is to take all the old plaster off. we left a couple of rooms as it looked ok and just skimmed over. ended up taking it back to brick after a few years and it makes quite a mess in your newly painted / decorated house.

good luck anyway smile

Edited by MDMA . on Wednesday 23 November 12:59
You're right about the dates, I need to investigate further.

Not sure we'll be able to take all the plaster off. I'll leave the decision to my girlfriend's Dad who's doing all the skimming/plastering though.

dxg said:
Make sure your cooker switch is far enough away from the hob that it won't get in the way of the splashback.

(I thought I was being clever reusing an existing socket location, forgetting that the hob was moving...)

And if you have a single socket for the washing machine, swap it to a double or get another installed. It's useful having power available below the worktop level - for future things like plinth lighting.
All sockets will be doubles.

Do people bother with sockets with a USB power outlet included? Was thinking of them for the bedrooms (Overnight phone charging).

I've put a red dot on the plans below to show where each double socket will go.
They'll also be a dual power heated towel rail in the bathroom and three double plugs sockets in the cupboards under the stairs.







Edited by Parabola on Tuesday 29th November 09:07

Parabola

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198 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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What are peoples thoughts on dimmer switches for the main lights?

I under stand the bulbs may cost more, that's ok. I just wouldn't be able to deal with any buzzing sounds!

Parabola

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198 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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I want to have all my music and films store on a NAS/Server hidden in a cupboard under the stairs.

The telephone cable comes in by the dining room window.

I've asked for some CAT6 cable to be run from there to under the stairs, then from under the stairs to the dining and living rooms, and also up to the main bedroom?

Is this ok? What else do I need to do?



Edited by Parabola on Tuesday 29th November 09:20

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Parabola said:
I want to have all my music and films store on a NAS/Server hidden in a cupboard under the stairs.
Have you thought about a under stairs loo instead? Great for kids and will be liked by buyers if you sell the house.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Parabola said:
What are peoples thoughts on dimmer switches for the main lights?

I under stand the bulbs may cost more, that's ok. I just wouldn't be able to deal with any buzzing sounds!
Varilight v-pro are good if you are happy with a round dial format.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Parabola said:
Our first baby arrived (A little early) last Wednesday, so not been in the house much!

The electrician has started the rewire.
Was nervewracking choosing where the power sockets go. I don't want to get this wrong!

Any advice?
Minimise the amount you put in the party walls, being a terraced house you don't want to take out big chunks of those walls and affect the soundproofing.

Also your garden wall looks like it needs some re-pointing.

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 29th November 10:58