Question for any gas fitters/engineers here
Discussion
Further to this thread about being overcharged for removing a gas fire and capping the pipe, I'm curious if any gas professionals on here can give me some estimates of how long a job should take.
The job was to remove a balanced flue gas fire from a house built in 2000 and cap off the pipe so the fireplace can removed and plastered over. The pipe was 10mm, stepped down to 8mm to connect to the fire, and then safety test carried out to ensure no leaks.
I'd be grateful for any ballpark estimates on how long a job like this should take for a properly briefed and equipped competent gas engineer to carry out a job such as this.
Thanks
The job was to remove a balanced flue gas fire from a house built in 2000 and cap off the pipe so the fireplace can removed and plastered over. The pipe was 10mm, stepped down to 8mm to connect to the fire, and then safety test carried out to ensure no leaks.
I'd be grateful for any ballpark estimates on how long a job like this should take for a properly briefed and equipped competent gas engineer to carry out a job such as this.
Thanks
I've just finished a removal of a Baxi Bermuda + front fire, cap liner and disconnect unused gas run back to branch. One man job, took 1 hour 15 minutes from parking outside to walking out with tools. Charged £150 inc VAT and parts used (end feed stop end, liner cap and a vent left for plasterer to fit to board later today).
Yes, appropriate fittings at all times - it's a breach of GS(I&U)R to even leave a property to go and get one if this means leaving an open end. Do not pass go, do not collect £200, registration revoked upon being reported. Only way around it is to disconnect supply at meter with a disc at union and appropriate warning notices affixed - can't just tell homeowner don't switch gas back on. Chances are if they haven't got a stop end, they won't carry discs either, and didn't do this when driving 50 miles for a part?
Out of interest, have they used end feed (soldered) or compression end cap to then be plastered in? Again, it is a breach to have a compression joint that is not immediately accessible in event of gas escape.
Out of interest, have they used end feed (soldered) or compression end cap to then be plastered in? Again, it is a breach to have a compression joint that is not immediately accessible in event of gas escape.
2lefthands said:
Yes, appropriate fittings at all times - it's a breach of GS(I&U)R to even leave a property to go and get one if this means leaving an open end. Do not pass go, do not collect £200, registration revoked upon being reported. Only way around it is to disconnect supply at meter with a disc at union and appropriate warning notices affixed - can't just tell homeowner don't switch gas back on. Chances are if they haven't got a stop end, they won't carry discs either, and didn't do this when driving 50 miles for a part?
Out of interest, have they used end feed (soldered) or compression end cap to then be plastered in? Again, it is a breach to have a compression joint that is not immediately accessible in event of gas escape.
Holy sOut of interest, have they used end feed (soldered) or compression end cap to then be plastered in? Again, it is a breach to have a compression joint that is not immediately accessible in event of gas escape.
t! The end of the gas pipe was left open while they went for parts, nor did they attach warnings at the meter! About the only thing they got right was to solder on the end cap, and that was only at the insistence of our decorator (he's been in the game for a long time and seen it all).This certainly paints the whole thing in a different light - this is much more than just about being overcharged now.
I owe you some beers for this!
judas said:
2lefthands said:
Yes, appropriate fittings at all times - it's a breach of GS(I&U)R to even leave a property to go and get one if this means leaving an open end. Do not pass go, do not collect £200, registration revoked upon being reported. Only way around it is to disconnect supply at meter with a disc at union and appropriate warning notices affixed - can't just tell homeowner don't switch gas back on. Chances are if they haven't got a stop end, they won't carry discs either, and didn't do this when driving 50 miles for a part?
Out of interest, have they used end feed (soldered) or compression end cap to then be plastered in? Again, it is a breach to have a compression joint that is not immediately accessible in event of gas escape.
Holy sOut of interest, have they used end feed (soldered) or compression end cap to then be plastered in? Again, it is a breach to have a compression joint that is not immediately accessible in event of gas escape.
t! The end of the gas pipe was left open while they went for parts, nor did they attach warnings at the meter! About the only thing they got right was to solder on the end cap, and that was only at the insistence of our decorator (he's been in the game for a long time and seen it all).This certainly paints the whole thing in a different light - this is much more than just about being overcharged now.
I owe you some beers for this!
Pints always welcome
There was an old gas fire in my lounge that hadn't worked for years (fitted before i moved in)
When i finally decided to take it out, on lifting one of the floorboards i found someone had disconnected it by folding over the end of the pipe and squishing it up. Strongly smelt of gas, so gave transco a call
They capped it off for free!
When i finally decided to take it out, on lifting one of the floorboards i found someone had disconnected it by folding over the end of the pipe and squishing it up. Strongly smelt of gas, so gave transco a call
They capped it off for free!
tc153 said:
Did you notice if he removed your gas meter seen as he was soldering?
Whilst fitting temp bonding, purged using appropriate volume and outlet following works and recorded drop test in triplicate before and after? 
I'm surprised they had a van, these ones usually arrive on their trusty steed.
littlebasher said:
There was an old gas fire in my lounge that hadn't worked for years (fitted before i moved in)
When i finally decided to take it out, on lifting one of the floorboards i found someone had disconnected it by folding over the end of the pipe and squishing it up. Strongly smelt of gas, so gave transco a call
They capped it off for free!
Lead or copper? Many moons ago, it was a used method with lead, crimp and heat to seal. I'm too youthful to have carried it out, but you do sometimes find a crimp (not the brown type) next to an old meter.When i finally decided to take it out, on lifting one of the floorboards i found someone had disconnected it by folding over the end of the pipe and squishing it up. Strongly smelt of gas, so gave transco a call
They capped it off for free!
Never a good idea with copper, most certainly ID & RIDDOR reportable.
2lefthands said:
Lead or copper? Many moons ago, it was a used method with lead, crimp and heat to seal. I'm too youthful to have carried it out, but you do sometimes find a crimp (not the brown type) next to an old meter.
Never a good idea with copper, most certainly ID & RIDDOR reportable.
Copper! A bit of washing up liquid on the end had it blowing bubbles, god knows how long it had been leaking gas under the floorboards. Luckily the pipe was sat above an airbrick, so presumably most of the gas had been venting outNever a good idea with copper, most certainly ID & RIDDOR reportable.
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