Acceptable paint finish

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aspender

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1,306 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Decorator has just finished in our new Kitchen. For reference this is in a Victorian semi and walls were given a fresh skim of plaster. I'm not particularly happy with the work. In general light things look ok but when you look closely there is a lot more visible brush-work than I'd expect (i.e. he hasn't layed off) and the finish around the sockets is poor. Some photos attached but interested in opinions before I raise the issue. I don't expect perfection but I think I would do a better job.








Drumroll

3,756 posts

120 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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If it was my house I would certainly be complaining. I am no painter & decorator but I could have done a better job than that.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Decorator ? Nope

Skill-less DIY man ? Yes

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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That's very poor, there are bits in the finish, the brushwork is rubbish and it *looks* like the skim isn't flat in one of the pics?

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Nope. Not anywhere near good enough. I had a work experience 15 year old Yoof decorating with me a few years ago who manged a better finish than that on his first couple of days.

The plastering is very poor in places too which is contributing to the rough finish, especially round the socket plates and on the wall in pic 2 but the paint looks like it's been slathered on way too thick with a coarse masonry brush rather than rolled on.

You'll never cure the uneven plastering without re skimming but at the least that needs sanding down to a smooth flat finish to get all the brush marks out and then a couple more coats. I do hope the new plaster was misted properly before painting otherwise there's a chance it'll tear when sanding making the finish even worse.

You haven't paid him have you?

skinnyman

1,638 posts

93 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I wouldn't be too happy tbh.

We've got a decorator in atm, and although he's a little sloppy around the edges for my liking the paint coverage is spot on. Much better than what I've managed to get in the few rooms that I've done myself.

thebraketester

14,227 posts

138 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Looks a bit of a mess to be honest... and not just from the painter.

aspender

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1,306 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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No money has been handed over. Thanks for all the confirmation. Phoning the kitchen company managing the project right now.

paulwirral

3,133 posts

135 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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To be fair , the plastering is as bad as the painting , it doesn't look like either guy unscrewed the sockets to be honest .
Although I'm a roofer by trade I've always renovated houses and as such I learnt to plaster to a very good standard , but I was taught by an old hand that had been a plasterer all his life , I ended up in the bizarre situation of paying him to basically tell me off and shout at me whilst I was learning from him ! Back to topic , I skimmed an entire house out for a mate and the painter who followed me said his job was much easier because of the plaster work , and when he finished it did look pretty much perfect with only 2 coats . It looks to me the paint has been slapped on straight out of the tub without any thinning .

aspender

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265 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Plastering was before 2nd fix electrics - the sockets were not in then. Decorator unscrewed and taped the sockets but they were only really a few mm away from the wall

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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aspender said:
No money has been handed over. Thanks for all the confirmation. Phoning the kitchen company managing the project right now.
Ask them if they would be happy to use the pictures on their advertising...

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I'd say the plastering is the start of the poor finish

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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As mentioned, plastering is poor.
Having said that, the first thing a decorator should do is go round and give a light sanding, even if it's only to lose and water marks from the spread.

Prohibiting

1,740 posts

118 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Poor painting. I'm not a decorator by trade but I'm very much into DIY painting myself having watched a lot of videos to learn proper technique and reading online. I'm currently painting a whole 2 bed terraced house. Sanded all the walls down with 80grit sandpaper, sanded all skirting, caulked, unscrewed sockets and filled any gaps etc, sanded again and painted. Used a short pile roller which is essential for getting a nice finish then layering off each wall with the roller. Back stroking into the paint when brushing around sockets and edges etc. Overall your job looks crap and he's obviously tried to do it as quickly as possible.

You can see in the pictures that he hasn't even bothered to sand the nibs off the wall!

aspender

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1,306 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Kitchen company guy coming tomorrow. Obviously not going to name names but this is a local company, not a shed.

Found a couple of pics of the sockets pre-decoration.






thebraketester

14,227 posts

138 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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New plaster should be as smooth as glass of its done right. You could get around the crap plaster by using heavy lining paper but it's more work.

croakey

1,193 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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In my experience The before pictures aren't indicative of good or bad plastering, the colour variation and the manner in which is is applied makes it hard to see how good a job is before being painted.

That being said the decorator doesn't appear to have done any remedial work. My current house was plastered by a very fussy plasterer and even then the decorator spent I'd guess 5-6 hours filling imperfections and lumps that I would never have noticed!

paulwirral

3,133 posts

135 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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thebraketester said:
New plaster should be as smooth as glass of its done right. You could get around the crap plaster by using heavy lining paper but it's more work.
This is the truth , it should be pretty much flawless . If I was in your shoes I would tile between the units to cover it up .

ChrisNic

592 posts

146 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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paulwirral said:
This is the truth , it should be pretty much flawless . If I was in your shoes I would (get them to) tile between the units (at their expense) to cover it up .
smile

V8RX7

26,862 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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paulwirral said:
the plastering is as bad as the painting
^^^This

I was a finishing foreman / site agent for a couple of mainstream housebuilders and I wouldn't have accepted that in a £39k flat !