Acceptable paint finish

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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ChrisNic said:
paulwirral said:
This is the truth , it should be pretty much flawless . If I was in your shoes I would (get them to) tile between the units (at their expense) to cover it up .
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yes

Although that may not be the finish the op is after, given its been painted in the first instance...

Freds

947 posts

138 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Dreadful ! eek

paulwirral

3,154 posts

136 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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hornetrider said:
yes

Although that may not be the finish the op is after, given its been painted in the first instance...
Neither is the one he ended up with , I was just suggesting and option to cause the least mess , and I don't mean that the smartarse way it reads .
It's the quickest and neatest option as long as he doesn't get the original contractors back to do it .

aspender

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1,308 posts

266 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Tiling isn't an acceptable option. Surrounding glass splashback may be, but that was obviously not the plan from the outset.

This will all hinge on the reaction of the kitchen company tomorrow morning and if not appropriate I'll be sticking this thread under their nose!

Bristol spark

4,382 posts

184 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Looks like he used a Fork rather than a brush!



bazjude2998

666 posts

125 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Have to agree with earlier reply the fault lies with the plasterer.I suppose the painter should have brought to your attention the poor skim finish,very difficult to get a acceptable paint finish on such a bad surface.Hang onto your cash.Baz

roofer

5,136 posts

212 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Bristol spark said:
Looks like he used a Fork rather than a brush!
hehe

trev540

252 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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After mist coating your so called decorator should have rubbed the wall down, made good around the sockets and any other wall imperfections and then two more coats of emulsion.

dickymint

24,403 posts

259 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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bazjude2998 said:
Have to agree with earlier reply the fault lies with the plasterer.I suppose the painter should have brought to your attention the poor skim finish,very difficult to get a acceptable paint finish on such a bad surface.Hang onto your cash.Baz
yes Can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. I wouldn't blame the painter one bit.

richatnort

3,027 posts

132 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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[quote=V8RX7]

^^^This

I was a finishing foreman / site agent for a couple of mainstream housebuilders and I wouldn't have accepted that in a £39k flat ![/quot

I agree too!

Marcellus

7,120 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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When we had our kitchen done the builder said when checking "his lads work" he used the 1m rule.... if we could spot a blemish from a metre away from what he was looking at it wasn't good enough, seemed fair to me at the time and now the finish looks stunning, yes if I examine really closely then I can see things that aren't perfect but they're more "a brush hair out of place on some cutting in than anything major.

We've just had the Hall, Landing & Stairs painted by a "professional decorator" and he obviously wasn't working to the 1m rule.. more like 10m in the pitch black with a blinfold on rule! Eventually he got there but only so that he could get paid!

V8RX7

26,904 posts

264 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Marcellus said:
When we had our kitchen done the builder said when checking "his lads work" he used the 1m rule.... if we could spot a blemish from a metre away from what he was looking at it wasn't good enough
That's reasonable.

As an old Site Agent told me:

Unlike car manufacturing where cars are built in spotless factories by robots, we are working in a muddy field, building homes with wood, mud and our hands we cannot work to the same tolerances.

Dunclane

1,227 posts

170 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Although the plastering isn't 100% and the painter hasn't helped by not prepping properly your lighting will show up up every undulation and trowel mark.

To be fair to the plasterer he hasn't plastered in those lighting conditions and he shouldn't be snagged in them.

Bigbox

599 posts

212 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Looks like it was done by a bloke with a brush rather than a decorator.

Mind you, it is far better than the 'decorator' who did my house several years ago, who came back on several occasions and the finish was still awful.

As the person responsible for the finish to a new build/refurb, the 'decorator' caused immense upset and frustration at the end of the project - a frozen sausage up his exhaust pipe would be the least i would do if i was to see this fraud again

blade runner

1,035 posts

213 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I don't think it's that easy to get a flawless plaster finish on areas where there are multiple wall sockets TBH depending on how well the boxes are fitted. The plasterers who did our house were pretty good overall, but we had similar flaws around and in-between a few sockets. I'd have expected your decorator to do what I did - which was to a mist coat first, then a quick skim with a fine filler and sand down flat to correct any flaws before the top coats. If they prefer to use a brush rather than a roller to finish these areas, then ok - but at least use a decent quality brush that won't leave brush marks. Yous looks like it was done with a toothbrush...

Four Litre

2,019 posts

193 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
Decorator ? Nope

Skill-less DIY man ? Yes
From experience, exactly this. Theres no way thats acceptable. We had a builder "doing us a favour" and painting a room. Ive now spend the last few weeks painstakingly sanding the paint down which in some areas could be mistaken for Artex!

This was all on new perfect plaster which is even more annoying. You can see hes a clown as hes hasnt loosened the socket covers and used a roller.

aspender

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1,308 posts

266 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Decorator is back tomorrow to attempt to make good.

The comment about the lighting is fair - the LED downlights would show up the slightest imperfection. However I don't expect perfection. I do however expect things that I would have done (and have done in other parts of the house) including filling/sanding imperfections around the sockets and laying off consistently.

The 1 meter rule somebody mentioned is a good one. However in this case, with the LED lights off, I'd adjust it to the 'standing at the worktop rule'

Will see how it goes.

aspender

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1,308 posts

266 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Just to wrap this up, the decorator came back last Saturday and spent all day sanding down, filling and re-painting. Much happier with the results given the constraints.

skinnyman

1,641 posts

94 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Our decorator finished on Monday, I've spent the morning giving various bits a second coat as he'd ran out of time!

What ours has also done, which is annoying, is carry on the satinwood paint from the skirting 5-6mm up the wall, same thing with the edges of the architrave around the doors. So now in a few weeks when the paint has dried and hardened properly I've got to frog take up all the skirtings are paint emulsion back down to the correct level.

Ah well.

Mpov

19 posts

109 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Glad this is sorted, both the plastering and painting looked like a Friday afternoon job!