solving a cold bedroom

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wjwren

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135 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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My sons bedroom is really cold. There is insulation in the loft all over the house about 120mm and cavity wall insulation all over the house apparently. We dont have the heating on in the morning yet - well only couple times last week as isnt cold enough so I know it's not a radiator issue. Would hiring a thermal imaging camera be worth it? Any other ideas greatly received.

thebraketester

14,229 posts

138 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Windows?

Put the heating on?

Andehh

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206 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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120mm isn't much insulation in the loft, normal standards are at least double that! I have 200mm which I am increasing slowly & steady to 400mm odd.

Any drafts from around window/trickle vents? That can very quickly change the room temperature feel.

Thicker curtains?

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Maybe it's to do with the position of the room, corner so two external walls? or facing into the prevailing wind, or above an unused/unheated part of the house? If that's the case, all you can do is try to increase the insulation to the external walls or increase the size or location of the radiator or add an additional heater.

wjwren

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Thursday 20th October 2016
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It is a corner bedroom. I might up the insulation in the loft. I will put the heating on but it's odd that all the other rooms are about 21 and this room feels about 16/17 degrees.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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ghosts?

shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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wjwren said:
There is insulation in the loft all over the house about 120mm.
Not nearly enough. Doubling that would be a good start.

brrapp

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162 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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wjwren said:
It is a corner bedroom. I might up the insulation in the loft. I will put the heating on but it's odd that all the other rooms are about 21 and this room feels about 16/17 degrees.
Quite often the radiator will be positioned near to the door (easier for the installer) where it is warmer than the far side of the room next to the external walls. If this is the case, the thermostat 'thinks' that the room is warm enough and shuts off the radiator before the far corner can heat up. Move the radiator (or fit a remote 'stat ) to the coldest part of the room.

CornishRob

256 posts

134 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Your sons bendroom is cold? Colder than what? The rest of the house or generally cold?

If it's generally cold, then put the heating on. It's been dropping cold overnight recently, so no surprise.

Why would you have not put the heating on yet? Our house has been cold for a month now really, so we have the heating on to warm it.

sidekickdmr

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206 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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If you dont want the full CH heating on as I'ts only that one room, get a wall mounted electric rad just to take the chill off, probally only about £50

wjwren

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Thursday 20th October 2016
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It's cold all through the year- the rest of the house is warm this isnt.

Andehh

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Thursday 20th October 2016
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wjwren said:
It is a corner bedroom. I might up the insulation in the loft. I will put the heating on but it's odd that all the other rooms are about 21 and this room feels about 16/17 degrees.
That's a fair difference! Might be worth a boroscope to see the level of cavity insulation in that area - pretty easy to do with a £40 one off Amazon.

It can settle over time/have been installed patchily by a half arsed installer.

I had mine double checked soon after I moved in after suspecting it might have been done poorly when I was routing cables through the cavity (still within the New Build's Rockwool 10 year guarantee).

Chap confirmed mine was OK via several borocope holes. I had obviously just found a localised area missing it - excessive mortar/debris in cavity etc can all cause patchyiness which he confirmed is unfortunately fairly typical.

He did say that where a large area had been missed/not done it can make a noticeable difference in the house temps!

wjwren

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Thursday 20th October 2016
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ive hired a thermal camera from local hire shop picking up Saturday so I'm hoping this will allow me to see the cold spots and then I can rectify accordingly.

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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How are you going to use that?

bazza white

3,558 posts

128 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Does he keep his bedroom door closed. Thermal wallpaper may take the edge of the 2 walls.



Get a laser thermometer off Amazon\eBay you will spot the cold spots.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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wjwren said:
ive hired a thermal camera from local hire shop picking up Saturday so I'm hoping this will allow me to see the cold spots and then I can rectify accordingly.
Put the heating on and leave it on for the house to warm up then do the imaging first thing in the morning when outside temperature is at it's coldest. The camera will work at it's best when the inside/outside temperature differential is greatest and before the sun has a chance to warm the outside of the building.
You'd be amazed at how many people take thermal images in the middle of the day with no heating on in the house and are surprised that they don't get useful results.

wjwren

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Thursday 20th October 2016
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ok great thanks for advice will hopefully solve where the cold issue is coming from.

paulwirral

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135 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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My neighbour had the exact same problem , but with solid walls to the 2 outside walls .
I re boarded the ceiling and external walls with insulated plasterboard , skimmed it them and fitted a double rad instead of the single panel . It made a huge difference , but the room was due for a major overhaul anyway so he didn't mind the expenditure .

Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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wjwren said:
It is a corner bedroom. I might up the insulation in the loft. I will put the heating on but it's odd that all the other rooms are about 21 and this room feels about 16/17 degrees.
That's a fair difference! Might be worth a boroscope to see the level of cavity insulation in that area - pretty easy to do with a £40 one off Amazon.

It can settle over time/have been installed patchily by a half arsed installer.

I had mine double checked soon after I moved in after suspecting it might have been done poorly when I was routing cables through the cavity (still within the New Build's Rockwool 10 year guarantee).

Chap confirmed mine was OK via several borocope holes. I had obviously just found a localised area missing it - excessive mortar/debris in cavity etc can all cause patchyiness which he confirmed is unfortunately fairly typical.

He did say that where a large area had been missed/not done it can make a noticeable difference in the house temps!

colinjy

98 posts

108 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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wjwren said:
It is a corner bedroom. I might up the insulation in the loft. I will put the heating on but it's odd that all the other rooms are about 21 and this room feels about 16/17 degrees.
are those actual figures or just what it feels like ?

what it feels like and what is actually reading can be two different temps.

it would be worth getting an actual reading form the boy's rom and comparing with another one