Which boiling water tap?
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Current kitchen we have a Quooker which is getting on for 8 years old now and we wouldn't be without.
About to move, albeit to a temporary house whilst our new one is being built. In the new one I'll probably go all out for a ZIP with sparkling water 'just because' but since we'll also be keeping the place we're going to live in for the next 12-24 months anyway, we will want to fit something there as well.
Default option might be another Quooker at approx £1000 for the basic model (fitted) when ordered direct.
ZIP taps seem to start a fair bit above that (£1400+) so I'll probably wait on that til the new place.
I noticed that Insinkerator also make a tap that replaces the mixer, which would be about £800 fitted.
First things first, it needs to be good enough to make a cup of tea with, as well as filling pans for veg, pasta, rice, etc. So I'm not sure about the Insinkerator as it advertises only 98 degrees water temp. Quooker is definitely 100 degrees.
Secondly, it needs to be fitted - either by the retailer or manufacturer with the installation cost included for comparison as I really don't want to get involved with that!
Any other thank Quooker, ZIP or Insinkerator I should be looking at?
About to move, albeit to a temporary house whilst our new one is being built. In the new one I'll probably go all out for a ZIP with sparkling water 'just because' but since we'll also be keeping the place we're going to live in for the next 12-24 months anyway, we will want to fit something there as well.
Default option might be another Quooker at approx £1000 for the basic model (fitted) when ordered direct.
ZIP taps seem to start a fair bit above that (£1400+) so I'll probably wait on that til the new place.
I noticed that Insinkerator also make a tap that replaces the mixer, which would be about £800 fitted.
First things first, it needs to be good enough to make a cup of tea with, as well as filling pans for veg, pasta, rice, etc. So I'm not sure about the Insinkerator as it advertises only 98 degrees water temp. Quooker is definitely 100 degrees.
Secondly, it needs to be fitted - either by the retailer or manufacturer with the installation cost included for comparison as I really don't want to get involved with that!
Any other thank Quooker, ZIP or Insinkerator I should be looking at?
Run away from the insinkerator.
It looks to be a dressed up Little Butler from Franke which was a bloody disaster , and that's being kind.
Leaks from the tank , tank firring up badly and no spares or service at all available.
We had one some 8 years ago and it was the worst purchase we ever made.
When it was working , its great ,and I will have another instant hot water tap without a doubt.
It looks to be a dressed up Little Butler from Franke which was a bloody disaster , and that's being kind.
Leaks from the tank , tank firring up badly and no spares or service at all available.
We had one some 8 years ago and it was the worst purchase we ever made.
When it was working , its great ,and I will have another instant hot water tap without a doubt.
Quooker - a quality product. Did try an insinkerator and it's rubbish - silicone hoses, cheaply made. The zip taps are good but mega money, not worth it unless you really want chilled and boiling water.
Have a look on eBay - our quooker was about £500ish exdisplay from memory - but it all sounds silly money compared to a kettle until you've actually had one and used it regularly.
Have a look on eBay - our quooker was about £500ish exdisplay from memory - but it all sounds silly money compared to a kettle until you've actually had one and used it regularly.
just had a look on ebay and i have already forgotten how much they are 
£675 new , seems to ring a bell . lots of different model numbers though. i do seem to get through a lot of kettles , but not sure i can stretch to one of these.
reassuringly , lots of spares available on ebay for the quooker.
£675 new , seems to ring a bell . lots of different model numbers though. i do seem to get through a lot of kettles , but not sure i can stretch to one of these. reassuringly , lots of spares available on ebay for the quooker.
Our Quooker is furred up completely inside, as I found when I replaced one of the o rings which had failed last year, but that was really the only thing wrong with it over the 8 years or so we've had it. The amount of scale I got out of it was shocking! 
Would definitely fit the pre-tank descaler next time.
ZIP taps are used extensively in a lot of the offices I frequent so I presume they're well built and stand up to corporate abuse. And I did like the idea of both properly chilled and sparkling water too, in the eventual house.
Seems like a Quooker might be the best bet in the interim house as well in that case.
The worktops are granite so I definitely need a professional install job - there's no way I'm risking drilling that and messing around with worktops myself. Hence buying from Quooker direct.
Wonder if any of the Ebay companies also fit - I'll take a look.
Would definitely fit the pre-tank descaler next time.
ZIP taps are used extensively in a lot of the offices I frequent so I presume they're well built and stand up to corporate abuse. And I did like the idea of both properly chilled and sparkling water too, in the eventual house.
Seems like a Quooker might be the best bet in the interim house as well in that case.
The worktops are granite so I definitely need a professional install job - there's no way I'm risking drilling that and messing around with worktops myself. Hence buying from Quooker direct.
Wonder if any of the Ebay companies also fit - I'll take a look.
timetex said:
I presume they're well built and stand up to corporate abuse.
We had a few Quookers dotted around the place at work but had them all removed after the second incident of contractors washing their hands under them, you'd think after the first time when we had large warning signs hung up over the taps saying "warning instant boiling water" it wouldn't happen again but no.Muppets everywhere.
Parents just stumped for the below Grohe one - name brand, good reputation among these things and solid amazon reviews! Being installed today.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GROHE-30058000-Kitchen-Si...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GROHE-30058000-Kitchen-Si...
Edited by Andehh on Friday 18th November 10:26
One plus point for the Zip G4 is that you can adjust the temperature of the water using a simple touch screen LCD on the unit. Handy when doing cups of coffee.
Also if like me you don't like the large American style fridge/freezers, it's great to have filtered chilled water from the tap.
Also if like me you don't like the large American style fridge/freezers, it's great to have filtered chilled water from the tap.
I've just fitted a Quooker Fusion in my new kitchen. Even with my non-existent plumbing skills, I did it myself in a couple of hours last night (time included a lot of head-scratching also plumbing in a new sink!), and found everything very nicely made and easy to fit. Ok, I've been using it now for a grand total of 4 hours, so not the best long term review in the world, but I'm impressed so far :-)
One point to note is that I sourced mine through my kitchen supplier, who supplied it well under the Quooker list price, albeit as part of a large kitchen order. I would certainly phone around your local Quooker dealers rather than just ordering direct at list.
Pete
One point to note is that I sourced mine through my kitchen supplier, who supplied it well under the Quooker list price, albeit as part of a large kitchen order. I would certainly phone around your local Quooker dealers rather than just ordering direct at list.
Pete
Ok I'm leaning towards another Quooker again at least in the interim property.
But still need to get it properly installed - so am I better buying directly from Quooker at a higher price and using their 'free' installation, or buying the Quooker myself and trying to find a plumber who can fit / drill through a granite worktop / etc.?
But still need to get it properly installed - so am I better buying directly from Quooker at a higher price and using their 'free' installation, or buying the Quooker myself and trying to find a plumber who can fit / drill through a granite worktop / etc.?
pete said:
I've just fitted a Quooker Fusion in my new kitchen. Even with my non-existent plumbing skills, I did it myself in a couple of hours last night (time included a lot of head-scratching also plumbing in a new sink!), and found everything very nicely made and easy to fit. Ok, I've been using it now for a grand total of 4 hours, so not the best long term review in the world, but I'm impressed so far :-)
One point to note is that I sourced mine through my kitchen supplier, who supplied it well under the Quooker list price, albeit as part of a large kitchen order. I would certainly phone around your local Quooker dealers rather than just ordering direct at list.
Pete
I think our posts crossed - but I presume with a Fusion you didn't need a new hole (I'm basing this on having a separate boiling tap) so didn't need to drill the worktop?One point to note is that I sourced mine through my kitchen supplier, who supplied it well under the Quooker list price, albeit as part of a large kitchen order. I would certainly phone around your local Quooker dealers rather than just ordering direct at list.
Pete
If that's the case I assume installation is relatively straight forward, and a plumber can do it providing there's a nearby socket...
But drilling granite worktop is usually the pain...
timetex said:
I think our posts crossed - but I presume with a Fusion you didn't need a new hole (I'm basing this on having a separate boiling tap) so didn't need to drill the worktop?
If that's the case I assume installation is relatively straight forward, and a plumber can do it providing there's a nearby socket...
But drilling granite worktop is usually the pain...
Ours went into a brand new worktop, but it's a single tap for hot, cold and boiling water, so just needs a single standard 35mm diameter hole; nothing to drill if you're replacing an existing mixer tap. Installation was a doddle, it just needs tee-ing into the cold water feed, a convenient socket, and a small expansion overflow tapped into the drain pipe.If that's the case I assume installation is relatively straight forward, and a plumber can do it providing there's a nearby socket...
But drilling granite worktop is usually the pain...
Pete
Have you considered the Franke Minerva? We had one fitted when we refit our kitchen in 2013 and it's been great. It's an all in one thing - boiling water on one side and a hot/cold tap control on the other. So no need redrill worktop and any plumber should be bale to fit it. I recall that prices varied dramatically but in the end I think we paid about £600 (fitting on top)
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