Which boiling water tap?

[z4RRSchris]

zipp are st but rass approved

quooker are good but not

[timetex]

48k said:

Yes I share you pain. Isn't it just so frightfully annoying when your hot water is whole 2 degrees cooler than you want it to be. #firstworldproblems

If you're making tea, the recommended temperature is 100 degrees - i.e. water which is just boiled. True for black teas, at least.

https://www.tea.co.uk/make-a-perfect-brew

More importantly, one of the main uses is cooking pasta, rice, vegetables, etc - for which you put the water in a pan then onto hob and boil. Of course you'll need to bring it up to temp particularly if you're adding something into it straight away, but the closer to boiling the water is from the tap the less hassle it is to get it back up to boiling again on the hob.

I know it sounds a bit fussy, but 100 degrees is a selling point of a Quooker (for example) and if it drops below that, I may as well just use water from the warm tap / cold tap and bring it to the boil on the hob which defeats the object!

[anonymous-user]

pete said:

I've just fitted a Quooker Fusion in my new kitchen.

Ok, I've been using it now for a grand total of 4 hours, so not the best long term review in the world, but I'm impressed so far :-)

I had the fusion in my last place - great piece of kit.

[Pooh]

The Franke Omni 4 in 1 does filtered cold, 100 degree water, mains hot water and cold water so it could be an option.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Large-Appliances/Franke...

[mickv]

Lesgrandepotato said:

Stupid question... with the Franke Minerva, does it have a hot water connection as well? or does all the hot come via the under counter tank?

Pretty sure it's a separate hot feed - in fact I'm certain it is, otherwise I think there would be a real scolding risk, with "normal" tap on hot if anything happened to the cold water supply. And there's a bit of a medusa of flexi pipes at the tap base, which backs this up.

[mikeiow]

We've had a Quooker for about 8 years now: fabulous luxury device!
We had a bit of 'leaking' about a year ago.....put it off, then contacted them - they sent out some free parts to fix it....our plumber (who was unfamiliar with Quooker) was on the phone when it was still a problem, and they identified a part they hadn't sent: got it out all FOC. Superb service!

[guindilias]

z4RRSchris said:

zipp are st but rass approved

quooker are good but not

Both are WRAS approved - we can't spec anything that isn't.

[astroarcadia]

We have a Quooker Fusion. Hot, cold and boiling water all from one tap. Its been faultless.

[48k]

timetex said:

I know it sounds a bit fussy, but 100 degrees is a selling point of a Quooker (for example) and if it drops below that, I may as well just use water from the warm tap / cold tap and bring it to the boil on the hob which defeats the object!

Can you seriously tell the difference between 100 degrees and 98 degrees? What equipment do you use to validate that the temperatures are accurate? How is your equipment calibrated? In a blind test of 4 cups of water, could you identify the two at 100 degrees and the two at 98 degrees?

I'm seriously impressed if you can tell the difference, in the real world. I know I couldn't. But then, I'm a coffee drinker so what do I know

[guindilias]

I could easily tell the difference - but only because I have a fancy laser thermometer that is accurate to 0.2 of a degree. Otherwise, I couldn't care less - I don't drink hot drinks.

[guindilias]

Also, wouldn't your mug/pan/whatever cool the water down by a variable amount depending on material and thickness? I have to check water temperatures as they flow from the tap, I can't take a mugful and use a £30 "dippy" thermometer to test it?

[4sure]

Quooker Fusion here.
Brilliant piece of kit,just great for filling pan for pasta,veg etc.
One year in absolutely no probs except as previously mentioned it needs a re boot now and again.
Well worth it in my opinion.

[J.R.B.]

Quooker here too. Needs the occasional reboot but no issues other than that. Now we've had one we'd not be without one.

[Nobby Diesel]

Zip - as a company - have gone through an extraordinary decline, over the last 3 to 4 years. I wonder if the quality of the product has changed, in step.
The company transitioned from a privately owned Australian family business, which was bought by, essentially, a VC set up. They seem to have run it down and Zip is now owned by Brita, I believe. I stand to be corrected though.
Staff have left Zip in their droves.

[LeadFarmer]

I wanted a Quooker tap but at the time they didn't do chilled water. Is that still the case?

[timetex]

48k said:

Can you seriously tell the difference between 100 degrees and 98 degrees? What equipment do you use to validate that the temperatures are accurate? How is your equipment calibrated? In a blind test of 4 cups of water, could you identify the two at 100 degrees and the two at 98 degrees?

I'm seriously impressed if you can tell the difference, in the real world. I know I couldn't. But then, I'm a coffee drinker so what do I know

Does it matter whether I can tell the difference or not?

I couldn't probably tell you just from driving them back to back whether a car that does 0-60 in 4s feels faster than one that does it in 4.2, or whether the clock speed and fast RAM on my PC makes it noticeably quicker than a slightly slower one - but if you have an application which demands a specific level of performance for optimum results, then why not at least factor it into the buying decision?

Actually from what I recall, Quooker used to advertise and market their taps as '103 degrees' which, bonkers as it sounds, it probably right for the storage of the water (it was kept under slightly pressure so it didn't turn to steam at precisely 100 degrees) - but the point is they deliver the water as close to actual boiling as they can, whereas some of the other taps only advertise themselves at a few degrees lower.

[LeadFarmer]

It would make a difference for one of my ex girlfriends, who turned out to be a bit of a rabbit boiler.

[Andehh]

timetex said:

48k said:

Can you seriously tell the difference between 100 degrees and 98 degrees? What equipment do you use to validate that the temperatures are accurate? How is your equipment calibrated? In a blind test of 4 cups of water, could you identify the two at 100 degrees and the two at 98 degrees?

I'm seriously impressed if you can tell the difference, in the real world. I know I couldn't. But then, I'm a coffee drinker so what do I know

Does it matter whether I can tell the difference or not?

I couldn't probably tell you just from driving them back to back whether a car that does 0-60 in 4s feels faster than one that does it in 4.2, or whether the clock speed and fast RAM on my PC makes it noticeably quicker than a slightly slower one - but if you have an application which demands a specific level of performance for optimum results, then why not at least factor it into the buying decision?

Actually from what I recall, Quooker used to advertise and market their taps as '103 degrees' which, bonkers as it sounds, it probably right for the storage of the water (it was kept under slightly pressure so it didn't turn to steam at precisely 100 degrees) - but the point is they deliver the water as close to actual boiling as they can, whereas some of the other taps only advertise themselves at a few degrees lower.

This is what I don't understand, at point of leaving the ''boiler unit'' it might well be 100 degrees (as a normal kettle would be) but in the few seconds it takes to be feed through the pipes, through the tap and into your mug it is now at 98-99 degrees. It can't be at 100 degrees as otherwise it would still be boiling.

The same with a kettle, the minute you turn off the power it nigh on instantly stops ''boiling'' due to the energy required to actually heat water being considerable.

[aspender]

Andehh said:

This is what I don't understand, at point of leaving the ''boiler unit'' it might well be 100 degrees (as a normal kettle would be) but in the few seconds it takes to be feed through the pipes, through the tap and into your mug it is now at 98-99 degrees. It can't be at 100 degrees as otherwise it would still be boiling.

The same with a kettle, the minute you turn off the power it nigh on instantly stops ''boiling'' due to the energy required to actually heat water being considerable.

The wider point about exposure to air/mug etc is of course correct and inevitable, but worth pointing out that the Quooker stores the heated water under pressure at 110C so that it comes out of the tap at 100C

http://www.quooker.co.uk/enuk/energy-and-technical...

[z4RRSchris]

guindilias said:

z4RRSchris said:

zipp are st but rass approved

quooker are good but not

Both are WRAS approved - we can't spec anything that isn't.

i just tried to put 190 odd quookers in but couldn't