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samdale

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Wednesday 27th September 2017
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LESSON 1: IF IT'S LESS WASTE TO SPECIFY EXACT LENGTHS, THEN SPECIFY!

I've got a 2.4m wide base and a mix of 3.6, 3.9 and 4.2m lengths.

3.6m is ok as that's 1 and a half the rest means a lot of offcuts and maybe ending up a couple of metres short frown

Risotto

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213 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Have you been following this? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Similar idea and probably answers a fair few of your initial questions. smile

samdale

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Risotto said:
Have you been following this? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Similar idea and probably answers a fair few of your initial questions. smile
Indeed I have! And it has!

I have all of the 4x2 base made up and all of the studwork and flooring is here. It will be very similar with fence post corners and loglap cladding.

Still going for pitched roof and STILL undecided on roofing material. Those decra tiles look lovely but there would be a lot of overlap to make them work. Rough guess is that each roof face will be ~ 4'9" ridge to gutter.

samdale

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__LESSON 2: DECIDE EARLY ON IF YOU REALLY WANT A T&G FLOOR AND IF YOU HAVE THE MOTIVATION. IF NOT, BUY PLY__


mikeiow

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131 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Heading up on 9 months to build a shed? Pffft.....you can build a swimming pool in 3 weeks, c'mon!!

(just kiddin' - your pace of working is about the same as mine: crack on!)

samdale

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mikeiow said:
Heading up on 9 months to build a shed? Pffft.....you can build a swimming pool in 3 weeks, c'mon!!

(just kiddin' - your pace of working is about the same as mine: crack on!)
Haha yeah I laughed today when I came back to this thread and saw the date u started it!
I pretty much laid the base and then nothing for ages.

Now there's a load of untreated softwood sat in my garden it's forcing me to stop procrastinating!

TA14

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259 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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samdale said:
LESSON 1: IF IT'S LESS WASTE TO SPECIFY EXACT LENGTHS, THEN SPECIFY!

I've got a 2.4m wide base and a mix of 3.6, 3.9 and 4.2m lengths.

3.6m is ok as that's 1 and a half the rest means a lot of offcuts and maybe ending up a couple of metres short frown
4.2 is not so bad at one and three quarter lengths per plank - should sort itself out every third plank.

samdale

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TA14 said:
samdale said:
LESSON 1: IF IT'S LESS WASTE TO SPECIFY EXACT LENGTHS, THEN SPECIFY!

I've got a 2.4m wide base and a mix of 3.6, 3.9 and 4.2m lengths.

3.6m is ok as that's 1 and a half the rest means a lot of offcuts and maybe ending up a couple of metres short frown
4.2 is not so bad at one and three quarter lengths per plank - should sort itself out every third plank.
I've got 2 of them....

...and about 14 each of the other 2 sizes.

samdale

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Thursday 28th September 2017
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Archer suitably unimpressed with my work so far.



I only have one large tarp to keep all the wood dry.
Now I've started installing the flooring it all had to be piled on top last night to dodge the rain frown

samdale

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Friday 29th September 2017
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Good news and bad news on my progress with the floor.

Good news, I got the maths wrong. Even with the unplanned off cuts, I'll have enough.

Bad news is best explained by the pic below.




Is it just a case of accepting I should have thought ahead and unscrew the last few boards and space them out a bit?

On the plus side, at least I've managed to keep everything relatively square. Front, middle and back within a millimeter or so so no planing banana shapes to get the last one to fit.

samdale

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TA14

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Friday 29th September 2017
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Easy to say after but what you should have done is some maths and if your gap in the photo is 10% of the width you should have done say three 70% boards (with t & g) evenly spaced accros the floor then you'd finish with a couple of whole boards. If it were me I doubt I'd undo all my work and just cut the last board so that it's 60% width then bevel the end. then add a 50% board with a complimentary bevel to finish the floor. It'll annoy you for a day or two but it won't be visible, no-one else will know and it'll soon be forgotten smile

samdale

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Hmm that may be possible, thanks.

I've borrowed my dad's circular saw in case I needed it. Unfortunately no access to a table saw which would be ideal.

If I do my maths right for once I should be able to make the final end piece thin enough that it's completely hidden by the bottom plate of the stud wall.

Edited by samdale on Friday 29th September 19:03

samdale

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Saturday 30th September 2017
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Worked out ok in the end. Though it was a right faff planing to the right width, something I was hoping to avoid. Lesson learned.


CharlesdeGaulle

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Saturday 30th September 2017
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samdale said:
Worked out ok in the end.
I'm being a bit thick. What was the problem you had to overcome?

samdale

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With the floor finally finished and a friend arriving to help we set about making some walls. Screwed some 3x2 along the long edges to provide a jig of sorts to make the walls square.



One wall completed.



Both end walls complete.


samdale

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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I'm being a bit thick. What was the problem you had to overcome?
To finish the floor I needed about 1.1 lengths. Rather than cut a really skinny 0.1 I cut a bit down so I had a 0.8 plus a 0.3 IYSWIM.

CharlesdeGaulle

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Saturday 30th September 2017
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samdale said:
To finish the floor I needed about 1.1 lengths. Rather than cut a really skinny 0.1 I cut a bit down so I had a 0.8 plus a 0.3 IYSWIM.
Gotcha, thanks.

TA14

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Saturday 30th September 2017
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samdale said:
To finish the floor I needed about 1.1 lengths. Rather than cut a really skinny 0.1 I cut a bit down so I had a 0.8 plus a 0.3 IYSWIM.
Yes, it looks to be a nice job; I'd place a second screw in the 80% piece to prevent possible cupping. (I know you could argue that the sole plate, or the sole plate screws, will do that.)

samdale

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Saturday 30th September 2017
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TA14 said:
Yes, it looks to be a nice job; I'd place a second screw in the 80% piece to prevent possible cupping. (I know you could argue that the sole plate, or the sole plate screws, will do that.)
Ah yes, I took this photo with just 2 screws in each board. Now all screwed down at 400 centres as you describe. thumbup

It took quite a long time to plane the thin piece to the correct thickness but I'm happy with how neat the 2x45s have turned out. This is my first venture into any work of this kind really so lots of learning.

Edited by samdale on Saturday 30th September 20:38