Retrofitting Sky TV

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The Moose

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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One on my tenants have asked me about the possibility of installing Sky TV at one of the properties. This place has a normal TV aerial that goes into a splitter/amplifier which is then distributed to traditional TV points around the house.

Not being a Sky person I'm not certain how it all works.

I know that for Sky+ a pair of cables are required, however can I add a dish, replace the splitter/amplifier and then get all the Sky/SkyHD services other than plus at each of the normal outlets?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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If the tenant wants to get Sky why not just let them get Sky? Why do you need to be involved. Sky will handle all the installation.

sidekickdmr

5,075 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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What he ^ said,

Tenant will enter a contract with sky, sky will supply box and install dish.

Once tenant has left you have a free sky dish installed for your next tenant.

Only complication comes with apartments due to access (they won’t climb big ladders, and clauses in covenants saying no dishes, so check this out.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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But to answer the original question, no it won't be possible to feed via the splitter and points you've got. Frequency, signal level, cable type etc are all very different, plus the power to the LNB on the dish passes up the cable.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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In terms of distribution to other rooms the tenant can upgrade to multi room if they choose. Alternatively they could run a feed from the main box up the existing coax to the distribution board and then distribute (the non HD) signal to the other rooms. Would need some kind of magic eye device to control the main box from the other rooms though. Personally I wouldn't want to get involved or it becomes your problem. If they want Sky, just let them get Sky.

8-P

2,758 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Flat or house? Might be more complicated if its a flat

ndg

560 posts

237 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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If Sky install it you will have a cable running down the outside of the house and in through the wall. Depends how nice the house is, but I wouldn't do it to mine.....

The Moose

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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ndg said:
If Sky install it you will have a cable running down the outside of the house and in through the wall. Depends how nice the house is, but I wouldn't do it to mine.....
Hence why I don't want Sky to install it as such. I've seen some of the previous Sky installations and they just put the dish wherever it's easiest for them (as opposed to what's best for the house), whack the cabling down the wall and straight into the room where the Sky box is to go.

This has 2 issues - first that it looks horrible, especially as they're likely to want it at the front of the property and second I strongly suspect they are going to want a multi-room setup which I suspect will be done just as badly.

Finally, they'll pay for my guy to do the installation anyway so I'm not worried about that.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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B17NNS said:
If they want Sky, just let them get Sky.
Exactly.
Any landlord with any sense wouldnt get involved. So what if there's a cable down the outside?
They have to leave it as the day they moved in.
Sometimes we make good after our tenants but it comes out of their deposit, not a problem.

mandos_01

632 posts

101 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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The Moose said:
Hence why I don't want Sky to install it as such. I've seen some of the previous Sky installations and they just put the dish wherever it's easiest for them (as opposed to what's best for the house), whack the cabling down the wall and straight into the room where the Sky box is to go.

This has 2 issues - first that it looks horrible, especially as they're likely to want it at the front of the property and second I strongly suspect they are going to want a multi-room setup which I suspect will be done just as badly.

Finally, they'll pay for my guy to do the installation anyway so I'm not worried about that.
I'd be less worried about the multi room, they are now installing these new Sky Q boxes as standard, so multi room works off the wifi transmitting the signal from your main box to the "mini boxes" dotted around the house

No wires from the main box to the mini, so should be fine

The Moose

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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mandos_01 said:
The Moose said:
Hence why I don't want Sky to install it as such. I've seen some of the previous Sky installations and they just put the dish wherever it's easiest for them (as opposed to what's best for the house), whack the cabling down the wall and straight into the room where the Sky box is to go.

This has 2 issues - first that it looks horrible, especially as they're likely to want it at the front of the property and second I strongly suspect they are going to want a multi-room setup which I suspect will be done just as badly.

Finally, they'll pay for my guy to do the installation anyway so I'm not worried about that.
I'd be less worried about the multi room, they are now installing these new Sky Q boxes as standard, so multi room works off the wifi transmitting the signal from your main box to the "mini boxes" dotted around the house

No wires from the main box to the mini, so should be fine
Again, not being a Sky man... Does that mean the main Sky box could go in the loft and then no cables need to run down the side of the house and into any other rooms at all?

The Moose

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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Spudler said:
B17NNS said:
If they want Sky, just let them get Sky.
Exactly.
Any landlord with any sense wouldnt get involved. So what if there's a cable down the outside?
They have to leave it as the day they moved in.
Sometimes we make good after our tenants but it comes out of their deposit, not a problem.
How do you expect tenants to repair or have repaired a hole drilled in the side of a double skinned brick wall? It's not practical - whereas if we work together we can come up with a mutually agreeable solution.

AlmostUseful

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200 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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The Moose said:
How do you expect tenants to repair or have repaired a hole drilled in the side of a double skinned brick wall? It's not practical - whereas if we work together we can come up with a mutually agreeable solution.
Why would you have it repaired - you leave it in situ - the next tenant will also probably want sky, as will the one after that. If they don't want sky, they'll have a readily installed digi system they can plug a box into.

The Moose

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AlmostUseful said:
The Moose said:
How do you expect tenants to repair or have repaired a hole drilled in the side of a double skinned brick wall? It's not practical - whereas if we work together we can come up with a mutually agreeable solution.
Why would you have it repaired - you leave it in situ - the next tenant will also probably want sky, as will the one after that. If they don't want sky, they'll have a readily installed digi system they can plug a box into.
Of course - that's why I don't want a cable running down the front of he house and invariably badly installed as seems to be the case with sky installations I've seen - hence why I want to do it properly.

I was replying to the chap who said the tenants have to leave the property how is was when they moved in.

When we renovate and extend we are now doing Sky throughout by default and have been for a while. This one missed out however.

B17NNS

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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It's a renter. Wait till you have a bad tenant. 6m of shotgun and a few cable clips will be the least of your worries biggrin

The Moose

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B17NNS said:
It's a renter. Wait till you have a bad tenant. 6m of shotgun and a few cable clips will be the least of your worries biggrin
Been there, done that!

B17NNS

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Thursday 1st December 2016
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The Moose said:
Been there, done that!
Same frown

David-mbtml

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106 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I'm an engineer for sky

To clear up a few things :

You mentioned tenant would most probably want a multi room setup, sky only offer a sky Q box now as out standard product, any multiscreen 'mini' boxes required wirelessly connect the main box so no cabling to worry about there unless it's a freakishly big house and connection by external Ethernet is required (unlikely)

'Your guy' won't be able to complete the installation as he wont be able to source the required wideband LNB to suit a Q box as these aren't available to trade wholesalers or anyone other than in house engineers at the moment


The Moose

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David-mbtml said:
I'm an engineer for sky

To clear up a few things :

You mentioned tenant would most probably want a multi room setup, sky only offer a sky Q box now as out standard product, any multiscreen 'mini' boxes required wirelessly connect the main box so no cabling to worry about there unless it's a freakishly big house and connection by external Ethernet is required (unlikely)

'Your guy' won't be able to complete the installation as he wont be able to source the required wideband LNB to suit a Q box as these aren't available to trade wholesalers or anyone other than in house engineers at the moment
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iphonedyou

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Friday 2nd December 2016
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The Moose said:
Just the man!

May I get in touch by PM please?
PH is great sometimes. (Sometimes!)

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