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worldwidewebs

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Friday 23rd December 2016
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Yes please smile

Kneetrembler

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203 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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jason61c said:
I'd go for a lime based render over a timber frame.
I would also go for a lime render because it is easy to repair and it also moves a bit mire, but definitely would not use a sand and cement render because of the cracking which would occur .

If you contact the Lime Company in Winchester and talk to their technical department they will design and recommend a lime render fir you, I have used them on several properties and have just finished another one this last month.

Contact :-
The Lime Centre
Long Barn
Hazely Road,
Morestead,
Winchester,
Hants,
SO21 1LZ

Telephone:- 01962713636

info@thelimecentre.co.uk








worldwidewebs

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Friday 23rd December 2016
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What is the benefit, if any, of using a lime render? The render won't be applied directly to the frame, but to render board with a 25-50mm cavity

B17NNS

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248 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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worldwidewebs said:
If anyone knows of a GOOD renderer in the Cheshire area please do let me know smile
This guy is good (James), he's done sand and cement for me and also does monocouche (based in Staffs but may travel depending on where you are in Cheshire).

https://www.facebook.com/Halo-Plastering-Services-...

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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worldwidewebs said:
What is the benefit, if any, of using a lime render? The render won't be applied directly to the frame, but to render board with a 25-50mm cavity
There is no benefit to using lime on a rendered timber frame cavity construction for the reasons you have already mentioned.

In my experience, synthetic through colour on carrier board works well. As for specific products I don't have any detailed knowledge. Make sure you provide suitable movement joints at floor zones - and that isn't just a normal movement joint bead, but will need to be a proper slip joint (assuming the render spans across any floor zones).

magooagain

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171 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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I have not found anyone for you yet. Another thought I had was that you visit a local Weber stockist and ask them who thier best customers are. You may get a recommendation from them.

Spudler

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197 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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magooagain said:
Another thought I had was that you visit a local Weber stockist and ask them who thier best customers are. You may get a recommendation from them.
Good shout.

I'd also suggest getting in touch with your local 'Encon insulation' for a recommendation and while you're at it a quote for Parex.

worldwidewebs

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Saturday 24th December 2016
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B17NNS said:
worldwidewebs said:
If anyone knows of a GOOD renderer in the Cheshire area please do let me know smile
This guy is good (James), he's done sand and cement for me and also does monocouche (based in Staffs but may travel depending on where you are in Cheshire).

https://www.facebook.com/Halo-Plastering-Services-...
Thanks. Will give him a shout after the holiday period smile

worldwidewebs

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Saturday 24th December 2016
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Would I be right in saying that I should steer clear of cement-based renders on a timber framed house and find something more flexible? I came across the STO render, which looked good although I haven't spoken with anyone that actually applies it!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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To be honest it really does make little difference. Typically sand and cement renders are applied to paper-backed lathe on battens. Again movement properties of the render themselves don't matter much as the timber frame structure doesn't move (other than at the floor zones where there is a concentration of horizontal timbers which will shrink and compress once the building is complete).

I have seen all types of render used on timber frame buildings and there is no specific issue with any of them if installed correctly.

Modern through colour renders appear far more popular these days. These systems are applied to a carrier board on the same timber battens as mentioned above.

Decide if you want through colour or to paint it. If you want through colour then synthetic on board is pretty much the only choice. If you want to paint then sand/cement or lime on paper-backed lathe or any other system should be fine - subject to the usual workmanship issues.

Long runs of render may need movement joints in them, but that is for movement of the render itself rather than movement of the frame (as walls do not get longer or shorter to any appreciable degree). The render supplier should be able to advise on that aspect.

magooagain

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Saturday 24th December 2016
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I would of thought that the timber frame supplier would/should of given you the advice on what render to use or maybe the architect.

You have had some good advice on here. Timber frame does move and does crack.

Steer away from Lyme or cement based renders on the construction you are building.