Found our dream house....next to a railway line!
Discussion
fridaypassion said:
Rick its Common Lane Burn
Hi,I'm not 100% on where it is, but if it is where I think it is, thats is not the EMCL, it's the line to Selby/Hull.
PM me if you like.
Not that busy a line but does have the odd freight going down to Heck Plasmor.
I'll have a proper look later and let you know what the service is like.
Edited by Rick101 on Tuesday 6th December 08:17
Our old house where we lived for about 15 years had the west coast main line at the bottom of the garden, about 20 metres away. As others have said, you will soon get used to it, and it's only the night works that can be a real pain. The house did tremble a little if it was a particularly heavy freight train, but those times were rare. The line was up on an embankment which may have helped with the noise, however if there were delays getting into the nearby station the trains would sometimes stop outside the house with people basically looking down into your garden.
I think the reason you get used to it is because most of the time the trains sound exactly the same. The same noise, for the same amount of time...within a week or two you will have blocked it out. Ironically, staying at friends houses near a not-that-busy road, I'd often be kept awake by the traffic, as every car/truck sounded different.
Do what people say...try it and see. See if anything shakes, and see if you can hear the TV/radio OK. Are there any trees at the bottom of the garden (bear in mind when they are in leaf it does make a difference).
We recently built a house in a very quiet rural location, although the railway is still there a few fields away. Although the volume is a huge amount less than our old place, because you are further away you hear the train for longer. Again, it took me a few weeks to get used to that, but now it's blocked out again.
I find it pretty unlikely that pets are going to get hit by trains but not road traffic! Never had any problems there, and also we sold within days last year when we moved into our self build.
I think the reason you get used to it is because most of the time the trains sound exactly the same. The same noise, for the same amount of time...within a week or two you will have blocked it out. Ironically, staying at friends houses near a not-that-busy road, I'd often be kept awake by the traffic, as every car/truck sounded different.
Do what people say...try it and see. See if anything shakes, and see if you can hear the TV/radio OK. Are there any trees at the bottom of the garden (bear in mind when they are in leaf it does make a difference).
We recently built a house in a very quiet rural location, although the railway is still there a few fields away. Although the volume is a huge amount less than our old place, because you are further away you hear the train for longer. Again, it took me a few weeks to get used to that, but now it's blocked out again.
I find it pretty unlikely that pets are going to get hit by trains but not road traffic! Never had any problems there, and also we sold within days last year when we moved into our self build.
Trains to from Selby
The 4Z and 6M43 is freight traffic, the rest is passenger.
Not sure if you'll hear anything from the ECML, you'll have to check the geography.
For work, there are trains to Kings Cross from Selby every couple of hours.
going North you would have to travel to Doncaster or York I imagine.
In addition to the normal scheduled traffic you'll have the odd engineers train overnight but I think few and far between at that location.
Trains at SELBY from TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
08:13 4Z78
08:35 4Z78
09:22 1H01
11:39 1H02
13:40 1H03
15:14 6E51
15:41 1H04
17:41 1H05
19:27 1H10
20:49 1H06
21:02 2W52
22:23 1H07
Trains at SELBY for TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
06:18 2J92
07:00 1A91
07:37 1A12
09:01 1A92
11:06 1A93
12:05 4Z79
13:06 1A94
15:47 1A95
17:45 1A96
18:28 1J32
19:45 1A97
20:18 6M43
21:03 1J10
http://abcrailwayguide.uk/henwick-hall-public-leve...
Looks a great house, go for it!
The 4Z and 6M43 is freight traffic, the rest is passenger.
Not sure if you'll hear anything from the ECML, you'll have to check the geography.
For work, there are trains to Kings Cross from Selby every couple of hours.
going North you would have to travel to Doncaster or York I imagine.
In addition to the normal scheduled traffic you'll have the odd engineers train overnight but I think few and far between at that location.
Trains at SELBY from TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
08:13 4Z78
08:35 4Z78
09:22 1H01
11:39 1H02
13:40 1H03
15:14 6E51
15:41 1H04
17:41 1H05
19:27 1H10
20:49 1H06
21:02 2W52
22:23 1H07
Trains at SELBY for TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
06:18 2J92
07:00 1A91
07:37 1A12
09:01 1A92
11:06 1A93
12:05 4Z79
13:06 1A94
15:47 1A95
17:45 1A96
18:28 1J32
19:45 1A97
20:18 6M43
21:03 1J10
http://abcrailwayguide.uk/henwick-hall-public-leve...
Looks a great house, go for it!
Edited by Rick101 on Tuesday 6th December 09:53
anonymous said:
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The value/ depends on individual location- if it is one of many houses next to the line (as in a London suburb) the value effect is easily predictable and you should not lose out.For a 'one off' house it will be harder.
And surely buffer banging went out with four wheel goods stock 40 years ago? Certainly I never hear that. Happy to be corrected though.
Our current house is approximately 150 from a railway line. We've lived here for five years next May.
Its fine. You quickly get used to it.
However, as someone else has pointed out. it can be annoying when you are in the garden and you have to stop a conversation for 30 seconds whilst the train goes by.
Houses on railway lines can be tricky to sell. I'm acutely aware that our house has to be in top shape for people to consider it because of the fact that its on a railway line.
Its fine. You quickly get used to it.
However, as someone else has pointed out. it can be annoying when you are in the garden and you have to stop a conversation for 30 seconds whilst the train goes by.
Houses on railway lines can be tricky to sell. I'm acutely aware that our house has to be in top shape for people to consider it because of the fact that its on a railway line.
The percentage differential is important.
This house is £100k cheaper than one further away from the line.
If the house is £200k and the non-affected equivalent is £300k then it might be worth it for some people, but if it is £600k compared to £700k almost certainly not.
Noise perception and resistance is a very personal thing. I live about 70-80 metres from a relatively main road. I can hear a bit of traffic noise in my garden and it doesn't really bother me at all.
When I walk along the main road itself, I know Icould never get used to it and I am constantly surprised that the flats/houses on that road only seem to be about 10% cheaper than the area as a whole.
That tells me that a lot of people have a much higher noise threshold than me, but I suppose a busy road is not nearly as bad being right on a main rail line.
This house is £100k cheaper than one further away from the line.
If the house is £200k and the non-affected equivalent is £300k then it might be worth it for some people, but if it is £600k compared to £700k almost certainly not.
Noise perception and resistance is a very personal thing. I live about 70-80 metres from a relatively main road. I can hear a bit of traffic noise in my garden and it doesn't really bother me at all.
When I walk along the main road itself, I know Icould never get used to it and I am constantly surprised that the flats/houses on that road only seem to be about 10% cheaper than the area as a whole.
That tells me that a lot of people have a much higher noise threshold than me, but I suppose a busy road is not nearly as bad being right on a main rail line.
Rick101 said:
Trains to from Selby
The 4Z and 6M43 is freight traffic, the rest is passenger.
Not sure if you'll hear anything from the ECML, you'll have to check the geography.
For work, there are trains to Kings Cross from Selby every couple of hours.
going North you would have to travel to Doncaster or York I imagine.
In addition to the normal scheduled traffic you'll have the odd engineers train overnight but I think few and far between at that location.
Trains at SELBY from TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
08:13 4Z78
08:35 4Z78
09:22 1H01
11:39 1H02
13:40 1H03
15:14 6E51
15:41 1H04
17:41 1H05
19:27 1H10
20:49 1H06
21:02 2W52
22:23 1H07
Trains at SELBY for TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
06:18 2J92
07:00 1A91
07:37 1A12
09:01 1A92
11:06 1A93
12:05 4Z79
13:06 1A94
15:47 1A95
17:45 1A96
18:28 1J32
19:45 1A97
20:18 6M43
21:03 1J10
http://abcrailwayguide.uk/henwick-hall-public-leve...
Looks a great house, go for it!
Cheers Rick excellent info. I dont know why I thought it was on the main line me being thick lol The 4Z and 6M43 is freight traffic, the rest is passenger.
Not sure if you'll hear anything from the ECML, you'll have to check the geography.
For work, there are trains to Kings Cross from Selby every couple of hours.
going North you would have to travel to Doncaster or York I imagine.
In addition to the normal scheduled traffic you'll have the odd engineers train overnight but I think few and far between at that location.
Trains at SELBY from TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
08:13 4Z78
08:35 4Z78
09:22 1H01
11:39 1H02
13:40 1H03
15:14 6E51
15:41 1H04
17:41 1H05
19:27 1H10
20:49 1H06
21:02 2W52
22:23 1H07
Trains at SELBY for TEMPLHJ
Dep Wttid
06:18 2J92
07:00 1A91
07:37 1A12
09:01 1A92
11:06 1A93
12:05 4Z79
13:06 1A94
15:47 1A95
17:45 1A96
18:28 1J32
19:45 1A97
20:18 6M43
21:03 1J10
http://abcrailwayguide.uk/henwick-hall-public-leve...
Looks a great house, go for it!
Edited by Rick101 on Tuesday 6th December 09:53
The info on the crossing says it has audible alarm...Anyway we will go have a look and see. I'll report back on our findings!
kingston12 said:
The percentage differential is important.
This house is £100k cheaper than one further away from the line.
If the house is £200k and the non-affected equivalent is £300k then it might be worth it for some people, but if it is £600k compared to £700k almost certainly not.
Noise perception and resistance is a very personal thing. I live about 70-80 metres from a relatively main road. I can hear a bit of traffic noise in my garden and it doesn't really bother me at all.
When I walk along the main road itself, I know Icould never get used to it and I am constantly surprised that the flats/houses on that road only seem to be about 10% cheaper than the area as a whole.
That tells me that a lot of people have a much higher noise threshold than me, but I suppose a busy road is not nearly as bad being right on a main rail line.
Some of them may be deaf !This house is £100k cheaper than one further away from the line.
If the house is £200k and the non-affected equivalent is £300k then it might be worth it for some people, but if it is £600k compared to £700k almost certainly not.
Noise perception and resistance is a very personal thing. I live about 70-80 metres from a relatively main road. I can hear a bit of traffic noise in my garden and it doesn't really bother me at all.
When I walk along the main road itself, I know Icould never get used to it and I am constantly surprised that the flats/houses on that road only seem to be about 10% cheaper than the area as a whole.
That tells me that a lot of people have a much higher noise threshold than me, but I suppose a busy road is not nearly as bad being right on a main rail line.
Assume we've all seen the floorplan by now? Master bedroom whilst in the middle of the house would be preferable to be furthest away from the line and in a similar vein the smaller bedrooms (ie.. kids bedrooms) are closest to the line.
If this isn't an issue for your circumstances then that's fine, but likely a dealbreaker when actual viewing occurs and parents thought process switches more towards if nippers will awake with the window open and a train whooshing past (regardless of how alluring the ground floor and greenery is for us adults)
If this isn't an issue for your circumstances then that's fine, but likely a dealbreaker when actual viewing occurs and parents thought process switches more towards if nippers will awake with the window open and a train whooshing past (regardless of how alluring the ground floor and greenery is for us adults)
clarkey said:
I'd worry more about the airfield. What will your house be like when 5,000 new houses are built there?
Have you seen who owns the airfield? It's been bought by the local council so will no doubt feature in a development plan in the future: http://burnagainstnewsite.blogspot.co.ukclarkey said:
Have you seen who owns the airfield? It's been bought by the local council so will no doubt feature in a development plan in the future: http://burnagainstnewsite.blogspot.co.uk
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