Two found Dead in Fiesta - Possible Chemical leak?

[Leptons]

Excuse the Wail link, which incidentally has the most outrageous Headline.

Seems like Carbon Monoxide poisoning. Possible exhaust leak on a still day, heaters and blowers on full whack?



http://dailym.ai/2h6QmJ4

[Iva Barchetta]

Mail getting details wrong as usual with Focus.

Doesn't sound like carbon monoxide with a "bang" heard inside the car, most odd.

[Loyly]

I remember reading a paramedic safety bulletin about a trend from a few years ago for suicide in vehicles where the occupant would mix household chemicals to poison themselves (the bulletin was warning about opening the door and breathing in the toxic gases).

However, the location does not seem typical for a double suicide. We will just have to wait for the facts.

[Gretchen]

Iva Barchetta said:

Mail getting details wrong as usual with Focus.

Doesn't sound like carbon monoxide with a "bang" heard inside the car, most odd.

Hydrogen Peroxide and a lit cigarette?

Tragic accident. Terribly sad.

[Leptons]

Iva Barchetta said:

Mail getting details wrong as usual with Focus.

Doesn't sound like carbon monoxide with a "bang" heard inside the car, most odd.

One of the Neighbours was quoted as saying it sounded like an exhaust bang. Apparently the lad had just had some modifications done to it so was probably trying it out.

Whatever happened it's very sad

R.I.P

[danpalmer1993]

Potentially some kind of exhaust leak if the engine was running for a long time. The bang could well have been a hard cut limiter or something alike.

[dci]

Iva Barchetta said:

Mail getting details wrong as usual with Focus.

Doesn't sound like carbon monoxide with a "bang" heard inside the car, most odd.

A few on the ST forum are blaming a certain remap which adds F Type pops and bangs to the standard car for the exhaust bangs. The car bares the stickers of the particular tuning co which supplies the map.

Just how they died is anyone's guess.

[pseudonym]

DM Readrer said:

. I instantly wonder what in earth is in a car that could kill someone. Do all our cars have this? How safe are we? Hope someone answers this. Serious matter

Not sure if this guys serious or not..

[Blue Oval84]

dci said:

A few on the ST forum are blaming a certain remap which adds F Type pops and bangs to the standard car for the exhaust bangs. The car bares the stickers of the particular tuning co which supplies the map.

Just how they died is anyone's guess.

Which forums are discussing that? Can't find it anywhere and have no idea how a remap could get gases into the car so curious to read what's being said.

[dudleybloke]

Mobile meth lab?

[dci]

Blue Oval84 said:

Which forums are discussing that? Can't find it anywhere and have no idea how a remap could get gases into the car so curious to read what's being said.

The Fiesta ST forum. The thread may well have been deleted by now.

I must add that it's not the map at fault here just the possible cause of the exhaust bangs..

Whatever caused the deaths should be completely unrelated.

[Loyly]

pseudonym said:

DM Readrer said:

. I instantly wonder what in earth is in a car that could kill someone. Do all our cars have this? How safe are we? Hope someone answers this. Serious matter

Not sure if this guys serious or not..

Must be a joke. Now, if it were a Grauniad reader making that post...

[Wobbegong]

Loyly said:

pseudonym said:

DM Readrer said:

. I instantly wonder what in earth is in a car that could kill someone. Do all our cars have this? How safe are we? Hope someone answers this. Serious matter

Not sure if this guys serious or not..

Must be a joke. Now, if it were a Grauniad reader making that post...

The Grauniad would have it as an editorial,

[esxste]

pseudonym said:

Not sure if this guys serious or not..

If he's a regular Daily Heil reader, he's been trained to ask the inane reactionary questions that have no basis in reality.

[jbswagger]

Chelmsford double death update: police suspect carbon monoxide poisoning.

http://www.essexlive.news/fox-crescent-update/stor...

[Loyly]

The quote from the police spokesperson at the end is interesting. It may give some insight into case. A bad exhaust is pretty foul, a few of our old Astras at work used to leak around the manifold and blow fumes into the cabin. They weren't used in that state!

[skyrover]

pretty obvious if the exhaust is leaking... bloody stinks.

That said... most modern cars are very well insulated, and catalytic converters remove the vast majority of CO, so I find it hard to believe they were overcome by fumes.

[Ynox]

Suicide pact?

Mix together the right stuff and it'd easily kill you in a confined space.

[greygoose]

Ynox said:

Suicide pact?

Mix together the right stuff and it'd easily kill you in a confined space.

Seems the most obvious explanation, plenty of guides on the web.

[Loyly]

skyrover said:

pretty obvious if the exhaust is leaking... bloody stinks.

That said... most modern cars are very well insulated, and catalytic converters remove the vast majority of CO, so I find it hard to believe they were overcome by fumes.

If the leak comes from the manifold though, and gets pulled into the HVAC system though...

That's well before any post combustion treatment.