Victorian detached houses.

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blade7

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Sunday 11th December 2016
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Are they generally a money pit to run and maintain, and always a work in progress ?

Welshbeef

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Sunday 11th December 2016
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blade7 said:
Are they generally a money pit to run and maintain, and always a work in progress ?
Certainly.

mike74

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132 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Cold, damp, draughty and FULL of spiders!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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blade7 said:
Are they generally a money pit to run and maintain, and always a work in progress ?
Certainly.

Depthhoar

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128 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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.......generously proportioned rooms, beautiful high ceilings, elaborate cornicing, dado rails, high skirting boards, box sash windows, proper solid wood panelled doors......



....all that,



but a nightmare to maintain and heat.

Sunnysider

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92 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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We bought a 5 bed c.2500 sq. ft. Victorian detached last December & have found it surprisingly reasonable to run, although the whole house was already in very good condition.

Gas & electricity is around £170 a month in winter & less than half that in the milder months, although that's mostly down to the size of the place & having 15 radiators scattered about.

We bought it because we love the proportions of the place & the period features, & that's more important to us than saving a few quid on fuel bills.

worsy

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175 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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When I was building my self build I rented the old Edwardian c1910 place next door. I've never been so cold in all my life frown

I nearly bought this prior redface







Edited by worsy on Sunday 11th December 13:40

smn159

12,654 posts

217 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Been in ours (4 beds) for 14 years now and love it. Bills similar to those mentioned above, plus a wood burning stove for when it gets really cold.

Certainly wouldn't swap it for a modern house of equivalent price.

kowalski655

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143 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Depthhoar said:
.......generously proportioned rooms, beautiful high ceilings, elaborate cornicing, dado rails, high skirting boards, box sash windows, proper solid wood panelled doors......



....all that,



but a nightmare to maintain and heat.
Definitely this
When the oil for heating ran out due to a dodgy fuel gauge, the place was absolutely bitter, but is toasty when its running.And nice to live in

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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blade7 said:
Are they generally a money pit to run and maintain, and always a work in progress ?
I would say that there is no mystery to it.

It is just solid brick walls, floor joist. ceilings and a roof. If you buy it without any structural issues, strip back to brick any areas that need doing, replumb/wire if needed and insulate each floor then no reason for it to always be a work in progress or ongoing maintenance money pit.

Welshbeef

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198 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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hyphen said:
I would say that there is no mystery to it.

It is just solid brick walls, floor joist. ceilings and a roof. If you buy it without any structural issues, strip back to brick any areas that need doing, replumb/wire if needed and insulate each floor then no reason for it to always be a work in progress or ongoing maintenance money pit.
The problems are roofs can be easily over £100k on slates alone/it's cheaper to demolish and build a new house in its place if work is stacking up.

hyphen

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90 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Welshbeef said:
The problems are roofs can be easily over £100k on slates alone/it's cheaper to demolish and build a new house in its place if work is stacking up.
£100k for a roof? OP run away as quick as you can hehe

I was assuming the discussion was about the normal detached Victorian houses you find scattered amongst the semi & terraces around London, as opposed to anything larger.

blade7

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216 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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hyphen said:
I was assuming the discussion was about the normal detached Victorian houses you find scattered amongst the semi & terraces around London, as opposed to anything larger.
It is, and it's not anywhere near the smoke either. Had a close look at the slates using binoculars smile and they didn't look too terrible. I'd have hoped not using Welsh slates £15-20k if it ever needed doing.


Edited by blade7 on Sunday 11th December 15:54

Welshbeef

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198 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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blade7 said:
It is, and it's not anywhere near the smoke either. Had a close look at the slates using binoculars smile and they didn't look too terrible. I'd have hoped not using Welsh slates £15-20k if it ever needed doing.


Edited by blade7 on Sunday 11th December 15:54
Why would you even consider Chinese slates over Welsh?

C Lee Farquar

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216 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Welshbeef said:
The problems are roofs can be easily over £100k on slates alone/it's cheaper to demolish and build a new house in its place if work is stacking up.
Really? I assume you're including the price of a new Porsche in that.

Welshbeef

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Sunday 11th December 2016
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C Lee Farquar said:
Welshbeef said:
The problems are roofs can be easily over £100k on slates alone/it's cheaper to demolish and build a new house in its place if work is stacking up.
Really? I assume you're including the price of a new Porsche in that.
Victorian detached house is upwards of £100k just for the slates - if you want Pork fine that will be extra.

blade7

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Sunday 11th December 2016
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Welshbeef said:
blade7 said:
It is, and it's not anywhere near the smoke either. Had a close look at the slates using binoculars smile and they didn't look too terrible. I'd have hoped not using Welsh slates £15-20k if it ever needed doing.
Why would you even consider Chinese slates over Welsh?
Cost, and I wouldn't use either. Had a small barn roof redone last year, reused the originals for one side and the fibre copies for the other side.

C Lee Farquar

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216 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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I've just slated a 130 sq metre roof in good reclaimed Welsh slate for just under £4k slate cost. New Cwt Y Bugail would have been just over £8k. Both plus VAT.




mike74

3,687 posts

132 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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blade7 said:
It is, and it's not anywhere near the smoke either. Had a close look at the slates using binoculars smile and they didn't look too terrible. I'd have hoped not using Welsh slates £15-20k if it ever needed doing.


Edited by blade7 on Sunday 11th December 15:54
That price is probably about right for using Spanish slates... just remember to budget for it every 10 years or so!

Uggers

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211 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Surely all the slates don't need replacing? Just claim as many back from the old roof and top up with reclaimed ones. Spanish or chinese slates on an old house looks piss poor IMO.

I've a Georgian place and sure the gas bills can be epic (biggest was £450 in a month) but electric if you are not using it for heat is no different to a modern house. Victorian places offer what nearly every modern house cannot, which is space/character/feel. If you can find a place that has been modernised inside but with sympathy for the character of the place you'd get (almost) best of both worlds.