What do I need to hook washing machine up in shed

[Tampon]

I have a new house with a small kitchen and a extension planned in the next 18 months. Currently there is a washing machine and no room for a dishwasher.

Wife is not happy with this.

I have suggested we swap the washing machine for dishwasher and put the washing machine in the shed as it is near the rear door and a drain for the grey water. Thinking being we use the dishwasher everyday and the washing machine a couple of times a week and it is right there by the clothes line.

I have power in the shed and a outdoor tap within 5m. I am thinking hose pipe run to the shed but what fittings to make the hose pipe fit the washing machine?

Any links to what I need would be gratefully received.

[CoolHands]

I would run plastic pipe rather than hosepipe since it's going to be for a year or two.

Extended drain hose

http://www.screwfix.com/p/washing-machine-drain-ho...

Washing machine inlet pipe valve

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedfit-15aptp-washi...

Pipe

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedfit-bpex-barrier...

Pipe inserts

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedfit-tsm15np-inse...

Not sure about connecting to the outdoor tap try one of these. They do various similar fittings.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedfit-pse3201wp-ta...

[SpamDisco]

Is the shed temperature likely to drop below freezing, it could cause problems if the in/outlet pipes freeze.

[Tampon]

Thanks for that.

Stupid iPad has triple posted the thread, sorry mods.

Shed might get below freezing but I am on the south coast so hopefully not, I could always chuck a blanket over the machine in the shed when it is predicted really cold weather. The beer fridge in the shed should produce some risidual heat. I am hoping to lag the pipe going in and switch the tap off when not using the machine.

[S11Steve]

Mentioned on the other thread... An outside washing machine is logistically a ballache. At the last house ours was in the garage, and having to drag baskets of washing outside and round the back of the garage in the rain and snow, then try to swap loads without it dropping on the garage floor caused many an expletive to be uttered.

As a stop-gap solution, then fair enough, but for a long term location I'd advise against it.

[C0ffin D0dger]

I can't imagine it would do the machine much good if any residual water within it got frozen, I'd therefore be thinking about putting something like a greenhouse heater in the shed to stop it ever getting below 0°C.

That said we kept a washing machine and a dishwasher in an unheated but internal garage for a couple of years without issue whilst our place was being renovated. As others have said though it was a total PITA having them outside despite having an internal door to the garage.

[SS2.]

For many reasons, having the washing machine in an separate outside building sounds like a PITA all round.

I think I'd be foregoing the dishwasher for now, leaving the washing machine in the kitchen and accepting that there'll be a few more plates to scrub by hand over the next 18 months or so.

[sidekickdmr]

As other posters have said, put a heater in there which just kicks in at something like 4 degrees to keep the frost off and you will be fine.

Obvisly bear in mind the external pipes will still freeze so wont be able to use it when its minus temps anyway, unless you insulate/bury them.

[Tampon]

Thanks for the advise on how to connect the machine up and the advise on the choice of where to put the machine itself.

The shed works best for us as a stop gap with the dishwasher in the kitchen but I love the idea of putting it in the bathroom though, Americans do this a lot to save bringing washing downstairs then back up again. Alas not enough room at the moment. Wife is not made of paper so I will get a large washing basket and she can hop outside when needed.

Shed floor is being beefed up with 18mm marine ply for the machine to sit on. I have ordered the speedfit connections and will have the machine permanently hooked up the mains for piece of mind as a leaky hoselock connection would ruin the shed swiftly.

Thanks again.

Edited by Tampon on Friday 23 December 14:15

[Joe M]

Maybe put a couple of slabs down between the washing machine and shed base?

[jonwm]

Tampon said:

Thanks for the advise on how to connect the machine up and the advise on the choice of where to put the machine itself.

The shed works best for us as a stop gap with the dishwasher in the kitchen but I love the idea of putting it in the bathroom though, Americans do this a lot to save bringing washing downstairs then back up again. Alas not enough room at the moment. Wife is not made of paper so I will get a large washing basket and she can hop outside when needed.

Shed floor is being beefed up with 18mm marine ply for the machine to sit on. I have ordered the speedfit connections and will have the machine permanently hooked up the mains for piece of mind as a leaky hoselock connection would ruin the shed swiftly.

Thanks again.

Edited by Tampon on Friday 23 December 14:15

You see lots of washing machines located in bathrooms across Europe, a collegue who recently moved from Germany and prior to that Greece thought I was nuts having my washing machine in the kitchen

[Tampon]

Joe M said:

Maybe put a couple of slabs down between the washing machine and shed base?

No need, 18mm osb floor with 18 mm marine ply on top is more than enough on a joisted shed base that has support post cemented into the ground.

The only real reason for the marine ply is incase it is damp in there the osb with the weight of the machine will dent then give way to the feet.

[InertialTooth45]

Had ours in one of the upstairs bedrooms in our last house. Worked a treat, washing machine and drier, then all the space above was turned into hanging racks and shelves.

No more lugging washing up and down the stairs.

Getting it up there was a ballache mind!

[Tampon]

UPDATE and help required.

I bouoght all the fittings and have been connecting everything up today. It has all gone like a dream and dead easy to use until I got to the tap to speedfit pipe connection.

This is the fitting


Everything else is a twist fit and works great but this push fit connection is blowing out when pressure is applied.

I have made a video to show and explain what is going on. The first time the superseal insert went in firmly but the pipe never felt secure as it would turn in the fitting.

I have cut the pipe very carefully with a pipe cutter on the marks and it is straight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHUw_IguLd0

Any help very gratefully received.

[CoolHands]

I think when you push the flexi pipe on, you may need to then pull it away from the white pipe. It should sort of extend the connector. To explain what I mean, if you fiddle with the grey connector off the pipe for a moment, you should find the central part is kind of 'loose'. You can move it to and fro. When it's connected, it needs to be in the 'extended' position. (IIRC).

Edited by CoolHands on Wednesday 28th December 14:14

[CoolHands]

have a look at this to see what I mean

https://youtu.be/CLV5kQTsDs4?t=3m12s

[Tampon]

Cheers coolhands. I tried without the insert, no luck, also the fitting doesn't have a sliding collar it is a one piece mould.

Really strange, tried to get it moving but it is one piece.

[Tampon]

I have made a vid of the collar being part of the main body and not separate and moving.

I have tried to get it moving to see if it is separate but unless there is some lock that I have triggered it will never move.

It never moved when I got it as I looked at all the fitting before starting as I have never used this stuff before and this never had a moving collar like my twist and lock connections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSqByel8fuc

[CoolHands]

Is it possible that one is for a copper pipe, and ones for the white plastic water pipe are different? Maybe have a google.

[CoolHands]

Maybe this is the right one

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedfit-flexible-tap...