Spec my network cable

[alock]

chasingracecars said:

anonymous said:

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Soo true TTN me too!! 20 years and it seems we know nothing compared to others on here!

You both seem to have missed the point and your references to experience justify why you are out of date. 10 years ago I would have agreed with you and we'd have all been wrong because the investment in infrastructure would have quickly dated.

Kids these days barely sit in front of a TV, let alone watch broadcast TV. Smartphones, tablets and ultra portable laptops is how the world now works. None of these even have wired networking ports

A well designed wireless network can cover an enormous house with 2 or 3 network leads connecting the access points.

A few people need dedicated fast computer-to-computer connections but that does not need 120+ wall sockets in a typical house. These people would be far better served with ducting between locations to draw cables through as required.

[WinstonWolf]

anonymous said:

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You can see where a cable has been partially crushed under a ladder during installation with the right test equipment

[PoleDriver]

WinstonWolf said:

You can see where a cable has been partially crushed under a ladder during installation with the right test equipment

TDR?

[Dave_ST220]

anonymous said:

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Which was the point I was making. That same cable will work just fine as far as the customer is concerned. If you are pulling in 120 CAT6 cables or whatever it's pretty pointless if you aren't testing the finished install. A bit like strapping some turbo's on an engine without mapping it correctly. Sure it works....

[WinstonWolf]

PoleDriver said:

WinstonWolf said:

You can see where a cable has been partially crushed under a ladder during installation with the right test equipment

TDR?

Used to use TDRs on co-ax, modern testers do that and quite a bit more. TDRs were invaluable finding a break in 185m of cable, it was nearly always someone undoing a BNC when they moved their PC.

[WinstonWolf]

anonymous said:

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Yup, it'll probably be fine at 100m/b but put gig through a long run and it'll probably have a high error rate. When I was a cable monkey the customer got a printout of every single run with a pass on it, if the run didn't pass certification we didn't leave site.

[Dave_ST220]

WinstonWolf said:

Used to use TDRs on co-ax, modern testers do that and quite a bit more. TDRs were invaluable finding a break in 185m of cable, it was nearly always someone undoing a BNC when they moved their PC.

Or some idiot nicking the end terminator for some reason! Probably because they knew the whole network would fail.....

[PoleDriver]

Sorry to hijack but if there are any installers in the Hampshire area who would like to quote for the installation of 14 sockets with CAT 6 cable to a switcher in our offices please pm me.
Trunking, wall holes face plates and boxes are all sorted!

Edited by PoleDriver on Friday 3rd March 13:35

[WinstonWolf]

Dave_ST220 said:

WinstonWolf said:

Used to use TDRs on co-ax, modern testers do that and quite a bit more. TDRs were invaluable finding a break in 185m of cable, it was nearly always someone undoing a BNC when they moved their PC.

Or some idiot nicking the end terminator for some reason! Probably because they knew the whole network would fail.....

My favourite sort of day. Drive three hours, replace terminator, print out test, full English and drive home

[onlynik]

gavsdavs said:

I suspect the number of people commenting with actual networking qualifications is actually rather few.

Correct I don't. However I do work with about 10 CCIE certified folk. (I do the server side )

gavsdavs said:

For all of you guys saying I'm doing it wrong I suspect all of you have been forced at one point in time to put a local switch in place when you've run out of ports. You end up where I am. I don't have a house which permits me to flood wire it, so I so,ply use the technology to do it for me.

Yes, when I rented a house, but I've an old Victorian house now, so I'm able run the cables, FWIW, of the 8 in my lounge, I currently use 1. But I'm also rolling out WAPs around the house for better wifi coverage. I don't watch broadcast TV, just Netflix and Amazon, so no Sky box required. The BT phone just sits unused (I'd disconnect it if my wife would allow it)

gavsdavs said:

Hugs