Swivelling baby seat

Swivelling baby seat

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ab80

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189 posts

139 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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Hi, I know that baby seats have been discussed before, but I'm interested to know whether anyone has fitted a swivelling baby seat in the back of their 911. From the manufacturers' websites it appears that the MaxiCosi does, but I'd like to know what alternatives there are. This is for a newborn.

Thanks!

ab80

Original Poster:

189 posts

139 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Or indeed, does anyone have any experience of using a modern babyseat with a 991/991.2? A trip to Mothercare was not encouraging.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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what's a swivelling baby? I thought they all did that?


Sorry :-)

DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Group 0 is rear facing and some do rotate on the isofix base. We have a Jane Matrix 2 which does just that so you can load and unload child from the rear door far more easily as they are facing you.
How that would work or be an advantage in a 911 I'm not sure. I don't recall if mine had isofix in the back, it was an 03 car so could have. Fitting it in the first place would be fun and I doubt the car seat base is large enough. Also as you are loading through the front door even with the seat turned 90 degrees it is going to be a right royal pita doing the straps up. In theory the seat would rotate to face forwards but ours never would as the usual seat shapes (and this is for a rear bench seat) got in the way.
When tiny you tend to load seat with child already installed so that could be marginally easier.
It's not exactly a family car sadly!

chriscoates81

482 posts

131 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I used to load my 6 month old into the seat first when he was smaller but now hes a bit bigger i just lower him into the seat and he seems ok with it.

ab80

Original Poster:

189 posts

139 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Thanks for the replies. All of the newborn-compatible seats are enormous. This may prove to be too ambitious!

braddo

10,399 posts

187 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Best option I know of would be to get a maxicosi easybase, which stays in the car, onto which you place the baby seat (maxicosi cabriofix) with the baby already in and belted up. It's far easier than placing a baby into the seat when the seat is already in the car.

You can buy a quinny zapp and adapters to put the cabriofix baby seat onto and hey presto, a 'travel system' that fits in a 911.

I used a cabriofix in my car (without the easybase) for the occasional trip.

essayer

9,011 posts

193 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Recaro Privia system also comes with an isofix base, although do try it in the car first as it may hold baby too upright


ab80

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189 posts

139 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Just in case it helps anyone else with a newborn / small baby:

After some considerable assistance from the wonderful In Car Safety Centre in Rayleigh (don't be put off by the name - they sell only child car seats), I've managed to fit a Britax Romer Baby-Safe i-Size in the back of the 991.2 Turbo S, with space for my wife (around 5 foot 6 or so) in the front. We didn't try with the isofix base, but it works with a belt.

Other baby seats fitted, but there were issues with belting them in - the belt came out of the guides. This one fits perfectly.

essayer

9,011 posts

193 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Good to hear - can similarly recommend their Milton Keynes branch - very thorough

IREvans

1,126 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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ab80 said:
Hi, I know that baby seats have been discussed before, but I'm interested to know whether anyone has fitted a swivelling baby seat in the back of their 911. From the manufacturers' websites it appears that the MaxiCosi does, but I'd like to know what alternatives there are. This is for a newborn.

Thanks!
Despite my best efforts, I could never make a baby seat safely fit into the back of a 911. The child seats fit so much better and more securely when you have isofix mounts, which are available in the front of a 911, but sadly not in the back. It doesn't bear considering the consequences of being involved in an accident with an inadequately mounted rear child seat.


ab80

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189 posts

139 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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woollyjoe said:
Love it - latest gen Turbo S. So that will be quite fast then.
It is smile

ab80

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189 posts

139 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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IREvans said:
Despite my best efforts, I could never make a baby seat safely fit into the back of a 911. The child seats fit so much better and more securely when you have isofix mounts, which are available in the front of a 911, but sadly not in the back. It doesn't bear considering the consequences of being involved in an accident with an inadequately mounted rear child seat.
I'm not sure how long we'll keep up with it for - it's not easy to get in/out - but my understanding is that with a little care on installation there's little or no difference in safety between a belt installation and an isofix installation. The onus is on me to install the seat safely, but even more importantly to drive defensively and with vigilence.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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I have a 6 month old but with a Caterham, Elise and GT4 which make transporting the family difficult...

Been thinking about a 996/997 but realistically how many years can you use the rear seats to transport kids for? Would have thought much past 4 years old then you need to think of something bigger?

braddo

10,399 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
I have a 6 month old but with a Caterham, Elise and GT4 which make transporting the family difficult...

Been thinking about a 996/997 but realistically how many years can you use the rear seats to transport kids for? Would have thought much past 4 years old then you need to think of something bigger?
More like 8-10 years old. From about 4 is great, when there is no longer a buggy to take and the children get into the back on their own, leaving just the belting up to do. I have a tall 7 year old who goes in the back at the moment.

IREvans

1,126 posts

121 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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ab80 said:
I'm not sure how long we'll keep up with it for - it's not easy to get in/out - but my understanding is that with a little care on installation there's little or no difference in safety between a belt installation and an isofix installation. The onus is on me to install the seat safely, but even more importantly to drive defensively and with vigilence.
Isofix is definitely more robustly mounted, you have 2 fixed mechanical connections rigidly mounted into the seat, with a belt providing additional anchoring - a belt alone will never offer the same level of security. I have 3 children, and have been mounting child seats in various cars for many years.

Driving defensively and with vigilence is a given, its other road users who worry me. I'd never risk a sub standard child seat installation in the back of a 911 - when you compare how well they fit into the back of my Merc GL, there really is no comparison. Now my children are older, they fit comfortably in the back of a 991

ab80

Original Poster:

189 posts

139 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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woollyjoe said:
IREvans said:
ab80 said:
I'm not sure how long we'll keep up with it for - it's not easy to get in/out - but my understanding is that with a little care on installation there's little or no difference in safety between a belt installation and an isofix installation. The onus is on me to install the seat safely, but even more importantly to drive defensively and with vigilence.
Isofix is definitely more robustly mounted, you have 2 fixed mechanical connections rigidly mounted into the seat, with a belt providing additional anchoring - a belt alone will never offer the same level of security. I have 3 children, and have been mounting child seats in various cars for many years.

Driving defensively and with vigilence is a given, its other road users who worry me. I'd never risk a sub standard child seat installation in the back of a 911 - when you compare how well they fit into the back of my Merc GL, there really is no comparison. Now my children are older, they fit comfortably in the back of a 991
no difference in safety at all which ever way you secure. Isofix was an invention simply to make installation easier.

Also - there is "debate" that seat belt installation (assuming it is correct) is safer in a head on collision as it decelerates the seat better than isofix, whilst isofix offers better side impact because of less movement.
That's my understanding too. The important thing is to install properly.

ab80

Original Poster:

189 posts

139 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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woollyjoe said:
ab80 said:
It is smile
Would be good to see pictures. I am going to investigate if it is worth taking out the rear seats to have car seats permanently fabricated into the rear to maximise space.
I will post some when the baby has arrived

IREvans

1,126 posts

121 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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woollyjoe said:
no difference in safety at all which ever way you secure. Isofix was an invention simply to make installation easier.

Also - there is "debate" that seat belt installation (assuming it is correct) is safer in a head on collision as it decelerates the seat better than isofix, whilst isofix offers better side impact because of less movement.
For children from birth up to say 12 months old, the Isofix base which remains in the car, in the back seat, and then a removable rear facing child seat is my preference - and this won't fit in a 911. While I agree that Isofix simplifies installation, and reduces the possibility of mis-threading a seat belt, it also provides less movement of the seat in the event of a collision, particularly in side impact.

ab80

Original Poster:

189 posts

139 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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woollyjoe said:
Would be good to see pictures. I am going to investigate if it is worth taking out the rear seats to have car seats permanently fabricated into the rear to maximise space.