Electrical Quote - Seems High
Discussion
I got a quote for the works below and it was significantly higher than expected but maybe I'm out of touch. For the work below in the Berkshire (West!) area what would you expect it to cost?
1) To remove all the old electrics and make safe while building work is going on (removing external back wall and internal wall between kitchen and dining room)
2) Install around 40 down lights that client is supplying in the existing kitchen and dining rooms plus extension.
3) Install 2 x outside lights that are to be supplied by the client.
4) Install roughly around 4 new twin sockets in new positions.
5) Supply and install a new 45 amp hob supply that is to wired from the consumer unit and installed in black PVC conduit around the outside of the house to get back to the kitchen.
6) Install a supply for a new plinth heater that will be supplied by the client.
1) To remove all the old electrics and make safe while building work is going on (removing external back wall and internal wall between kitchen and dining room)
2) Install around 40 down lights that client is supplying in the existing kitchen and dining rooms plus extension.
3) Install 2 x outside lights that are to be supplied by the client.
4) Install roughly around 4 new twin sockets in new positions.
5) Supply and install a new 45 amp hob supply that is to wired from the consumer unit and installed in black PVC conduit around the outside of the house to get back to the kitchen.
6) Install a supply for a new plinth heater that will be supplied by the client.
i charge more for weekend work not less! jason61c said:
eliot said:
Client supplying own parts = no opportunity to hide margin in the parts and likely picky/awkward customer therefore bump up quote rather than just honesty say it's not worth the hassle.
maybe the client has already got the parts? 1) loss of margin / cant bury labour charge in parts
2) cant slope of down the merchants for a coffee and natter every day on the pretext of getting supplies
3) customer supplied parts could faulty or more difficult to fit
only 3 is a valid reason, however in my case the parts were higher quality (MK electrical rather than own brand for example)
eliot said:
jason61c said:
eliot said:
Client supplying own parts = no opportunity to hide margin in the parts and likely picky/awkward customer therefore bump up quote rather than just honesty say it's not worth the hassle.
maybe the client has already got the parts? 1) loss of margin / cant bury labour charge in parts
2) cant slope of down the merchants for a coffee and natter every day on the pretext of getting supplies
3) customer supplied parts could faulty or more difficult to fit
only 3 is a valid reason, however in my case the parts were higher quality (MK electrical rather than own brand for example)
Sometimes its not a problem, sometimes it is. For example OP is supplying the down lights. Fine I wouldn't have a problem with that. Turn up to do the job, but the down lights are all pre-wired and I now need 40 JB's and customer hasn't supplied these. Back to the wholesaler wasting everyone's time.
Or it turns out the client bought the cheapest lights they could buy, so are difficult to fit or set up. They might not be fire rated or suitable for the area they are interned to go. All problems that wouldn't of happened if I supplied the materials. These cost usually get added to clients bill, meaning any saving the client may of made supplying materials is lost.
I also begrudge the fact that the client thinks I'm going to try and rip them off at every opportunity.
Yep, just had this issue on a couple of jobs recently.
They hate it when i tell them how much i could have supplied them for.
I have also just recently completed some remedial works on a property, where the client had a 'weekend work' cash in hand sparky.
Apart from not being able to supply a certificate, i also charged them a substantial amount for my services as no one else wanted to touch it, which ended up costing them more than if i had priced to do the installation.
Love these kind of jobs!
They hate it when i tell them how much i could have supplied them for.
I have also just recently completed some remedial works on a property, where the client had a 'weekend work' cash in hand sparky.
Apart from not being able to supply a certificate, i also charged them a substantial amount for my services as no one else wanted to touch it, which ended up costing them more than if i had priced to do the installation.
Love these kind of jobs!
Edited by Alucidnation on Thursday 23 March 08:10
I've had the following quote for our large extension/remodel (going from 90m² bungalow to 270m² bungalow)
For complete first and second fix of all new areas of house (all lighting, sockets, kitchen services, external plugs and lights, etc.)
Supply of all materials (including dimable LED downlights, satin chrome Click sockets and switches)
Replace and upgrade existing fuseboard
Make good any existing wiring
Issue certificate
£7900
We're in East Sussex.
For complete first and second fix of all new areas of house (all lighting, sockets, kitchen services, external plugs and lights, etc.)
Supply of all materials (including dimable LED downlights, satin chrome Click sockets and switches)
Replace and upgrade existing fuseboard
Make good any existing wiring
Issue certificate
£7900
We're in East Sussex.
Thanks all, the reason for supplying the plinth heater is that it's the same as a friend has and I like the look and (touch wood!) reliability they've had.
With respect to the lights I spoke to the builder who's doing the extension about sorting lights and he said if you've seen some you like just go ahead and get them so that's what I did. They're fire rated and I'm happy with the price although I appreciate that the sparky may well have been able to get them cheaper. I also got them in advance so that when the sparky came round to take a look he could see what he's working with!
With respect to the lights I spoke to the builder who's doing the extension about sorting lights and he said if you've seen some you like just go ahead and get them so that's what I did. They're fire rated and I'm happy with the price although I appreciate that the sparky may well have been able to get them cheaper. I also got them in advance so that when the sparky came round to take a look he could see what he's working with!
I see that as more than 4 days work, certainly 5 maybe 6.
Setting out properly can easily take 1/2 a day trying to find the best combination of positions that marry up with the ceiling joists etc.
40 DL's is also alot and depending on how fiddly they are to fit and wire.
(But I am not a sparks)
V.
Setting out properly can easily take 1/2 a day trying to find the best combination of positions that marry up with the ceiling joists etc.
40 DL's is also alot and depending on how fiddly they are to fit and wire.
(But I am not a sparks)
V.
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