Driveway lights. Where to put wiring

Driveway lights. Where to put wiring

Author
Discussion

rufusgti

Original Poster:

2,530 posts

192 months

Friday 24th March 2017
quotequote all
Ive had my drive dug out and compacted hardcore layed. I will soon be laying block pavings on I think about 30mm of sharp sand. If I wanted lighting in various places can I lay the cables in the sand. Or should it be dug into the hardcore.
Also any recommendations of where to order lights.
Many thanks

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Friday 24th March 2017
quotequote all
How bright do you want them? If it's just a puddle effect you're after then solar powered LEDs are really rather good these days.

DrDeAtH

3,587 posts

232 months

Friday 24th March 2017
quotequote all
Run cabling in the sand, preferably inside 25mm plastic conduit, unless you're using armoured cable.

speedyman

1,525 posts

234 months

Friday 24th March 2017
quotequote all
Armoured cable at least 500mm deep

rufusgti

Original Poster:

2,530 posts

192 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
quotequote all
davepoth said:
How bright do you want them? If it's just a puddle effect you're after then solar powered LEDs are really rather good these days.
Really, interesting. I have only ever found solar outdoor lighting to be little more than useless and poor quality. But I've only ever really seen the cheap b&q type stuff. If the latest stuff is up to it it would make life so much easier.
Cheers

SVS

3,824 posts

271 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
quotequote all
davepoth said:
solar powered LEDs are really rather good these days.
Are there any solar LEDs you could recommend? My experience of solar LEDs was like RufusGTI's, but have technology and quality improved?

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
quotequote all
If youre going for in ground lights something WILL leak sooner or later, use low voltage of some sort and make provision for accessable junctions, for example one Ive just done I've used 12" of drainpipe at each light so cables/joint fold in then light pops in on top.

Mains voltage = 1 light leaks, whole system trips, take them all apart to investigate.

Low volatge = 1 light leaks, 1 light stops. If you use mr16 fittings you just clean them out, re seal and new lamp.

Trust me Ive got years of installing, and fixing other peoples bodgeups.

Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
quotequote all
hairyben said:
If youre going for in ground lights something WILL leak sooner or later, use low voltage of some sort and make provision for accessable junctions, for example one Ive just done I've used 12" of drainpipe at each light so cables/joint fold in then light pops in on top.

Mains voltage = 1 light leaks, whole system trips, take them all apart to investigate.

Low volatge = 1 light leaks, 1 light stops. If you use mr16 fittings you just clean them out, re seal and new lamp.

Trust me Ive got years of installing, and fixing other peoples bodgeups.
Very good advise. Keep the cable/lights user accessible, as water alway finds a way!!

m3jappa

6,421 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
quotequote all
We fit a lot of the marshalls lights, they are available from the supplier for less money, iirc about 400 or so for 5 led low voltage lights. Easy to fit, easy to replace. Not like the fking nightmare that fitting proper 240 stuff is. The electricians aren't pavers and the pavers aren't electricians.
They are block size (well regular block size). And look great


dmsims

6,516 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
quotequote all
A slightly cheaper! alternative is the Quick connect (Techmar) stuff some of it from Toolstation

Low voltage, LED

(depends how long your drive is though)

8-P

2,758 posts

260 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
quotequote all
m3jappa said:
We fit a lot of the marshalls lights, they are available from the supplier for less money, iirc about 400 or so for 5 led low voltage lights. Easy to fit, easy to replace. Not like the fking nightmare that fitting proper 240 stuff is. The electricians aren't pavers and the pavers aren't electricians.
They are block size (well regular block size). And look great

Shame you arent nearer me! I want pretty much what is in your picture by that I mean the lights and the drive colour/curves etc

bstw

147 posts

184 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
quotequote all
dmsims said:
A slightly cheaper! alternative is the Quick connect (Techmar) stuff some of it from Toolstation

Low voltage, LED

(depends how long your drive is though)
Is this what your referring too? http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Lighting/d220/Gard...

dmsims

6,516 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
quotequote all
bstw said:
dmsims said:
A slightly cheaper! alternative is the Quick connect (Techmar) stuff some of it from Toolstation

Low voltage, LED

(depends how long your drive is though)
Is this what your referring too? http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Lighting/d220/Gard...
Yes

and these: