Double garage costs and planning ?

Double garage costs and planning ?

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PositronicRay

27,004 posts

183 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
Inkyfingers said:
TheAngryDog said:
RichB said:
air point, the O/P should stipulate this.
Some EA's will request a holding deposit to do this (refundable on purchase) . The ones I am using didnt thankfully.

Really? That's certainly not normal in non new build house sales, and I'd think very carefully about, and take legal advice on any such agreement.
A house I offered on the EA said that they would do this. I felt it a bit off TBH. The agents weren't very good either and caused a bit of stress over it.
A few yrs ago I was being buggered about while selling an ex rental. I requested EA take a deposit from buyers, as a show of good faith. They said they were unable to, I don't know what the legal situation is but they'd at least have to have a "ring fenced" account to store deposits in.

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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PositronicRay said:
TheAngryDog said:
Inkyfingers said:
TheAngryDog said:
RichB said:
air point, the O/P should stipulate this.
Some EA's will request a holding deposit to do this (refundable on purchase) . The ones I am using didnt thankfully.

Really? That's certainly not normal in non new build house sales, and I'd think very carefully about, and take legal advice on any such agreement.
A house I offered on the EA said that they would do this. I felt it a bit off TBH. The agents weren't very good either and caused a bit of stress over it.
A few yrs ago I was being buggered about while selling an ex rental. I requested EA take a deposit from buyers, as a show of good faith. They said they were unable to, I don't know what the legal situation is but they'd at least have to have a "ring fenced" account to store deposits in.
I think in some cases it may be prudent. I just felt awkward at the time, given how much the EA had messed me around.

Busa mav

2,562 posts

154 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Inkyfingers said:
Really? That's certainly not normal in non new build house sales, and I'd think very carefully about, and take legal advice on any such agreement.
30 years ago it was standard practice , in my experiences anyway.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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PositronicRay said:
TheAngryDog said:
Inkyfingers said:
TheAngryDog said:
RichB said:
air point, the O/P should stipulate this.
Some EA's will request a holding deposit to do this (refundable on purchase) . The ones I am using didnt thankfully.

Really? That's certainly not normal in non new build house sales, and I'd think very carefully about, and take legal advice on any such agreement.
A house I offered on the EA said that they would do this. I felt it a bit off TBH. The agents weren't very good either and caused a bit of stress over it.
A few yrs ago I was being buggered about while selling an ex rental. I requested EA take a deposit from buyers, as a show of good faith. They said they were unable to, I don't know what the legal situation is but they'd at least have to have a "ring fenced" account to store deposits in.
Personally, I would insist on any deposit going to my solicitor for them to hold on an agreed basis.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Busa mav said:
30 years ago it was standard practice , in my experiences anyway.
I'm pleased to say I've not been involved in the industry that long wink

S11Steve

6,374 posts

184 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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We've just had planning permission approved for an 8x4 brick & block single storey garage attached to the side of our house.

It was over the PD size, but was also within the permitted distance of the boundary wall hence why it needed planning permission. They have insisted that the bricks and tiles match the existing house, and that the driveway is permeable.

Cost of the garage is coming in just shy of £20k with a purlin roof, (rather than trussed so I can get a 2 post lift in there), all electrics, water, and remote electric door. It's at the wrong side of the house to the existing driveway, so we need a 100sqm of permeable block paving laid as well which is about half total price of the garage.

As above though, if it is forward of the existing building, then you'll struggle with permission unless there is a local precedent or example you can cite.

fastbikes76

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2,450 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Well its all a bit off topic now but an update on our progression of house buying as FTB'ers.

We found this house in the OP that we love and it suited us 100% in every aspect. I was about to go on a 3 week holiday abroad and my mum had just had a massive stroke. I was advised it was best to throw in my offer before I left however I tried and the agent was off work for the day. The following day I left the country and due to mums illness I left the whole house saga till we got back.

When we got back on Sunday the wife checked and found the house marked as SSTC...gutted !! She rang the agents on Tuesday who were rude and not remotely interested saying it was a done deal and that's that. Off we went to our mortage adviser today and got our MIP sorted so we were ready to roll on any others that came upl. On the way home I said to the wife sod it, I was going to swing by the house and speak to the owners explaining were interested in the house and ready to go chain free. Wife was saying no ways it would never work blah blah. Spoke to the vendor who seemed genuinely sorry we had missed it by less than a week and wished it had gone too us instead, I said I would put an official offer in and offered a princely sum of 1k more than previous people (who had a chain) laugh .

Well, 10 minutes after emailing the EA with a copy of MIP and screenshot of full deposit sitting waiting, we got the call..... We have just been accepted and on our way to start the process of buying our first house, from nothing to getting a MIP and offer accepted in less than 3 hours bouncebouncebounce

PositronicRay

27,004 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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fastbikes76 said:
Well its all a bit off topic now but an update on our progression of house buying as FTB'ers.

We found this house in the OP that we love and it suited us 100% in every aspect. I was about to go on a 3 week holiday abroad and my mum had just had a massive stroke. I was advised it was best to throw in my offer before I left however I tried and the agent was off work for the day. The following day I left the country and due to mums illness I left the whole house saga till we got back.

When we got back on Sunday the wife checked and found the house marked as SSTC...gutted !! She rang the agents on Tuesday who were rude and not remotely interested saying it was a done deal and that's that. Off we went to our mortage adviser today and got our MIP sorted so we were ready to roll on any others that came upl. On the way home I said to the wife sod it, I was going to swing by the house and speak to the owners explaining were interested in the house and ready to go chain free. Wife was saying no ways it would never work blah blah. Spoke to the vendor who seemed genuinely sorry we had missed it by less than a week and wished it had gone too us instead, I said I would put an official offer in and offered a princely sum of 1k more than previous people (who had a chain) laugh .

Well, 10 minutes after emailing the EA with a copy of MIP and screenshot of full deposit sitting waiting, we got the call..... We have just been accepted and on our way to start the process of buying our first house, from nothing to getting a MIP and offer accepted in less than 3 hours bouncebouncebounce
Good luck, pleased it's worked out, but if the vendors are willing to turn over the 1st buyers...............

fastbikes76

Original Poster:

2,450 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Good luck, pleased it's worked out, but if the vendors are willing to turn over the 1st buyers...............
Vendors have had 2 previous sales fall through already, and the house they are looking to buy is chain free. With us being FTB'ers there is now effectively nothing to go wrong....in theory. We liked them and they really liked us, just someone beat us too it with an offer but are not in as favourable position as us.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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First time buyer power on display there.

PositronicRay

27,004 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I wish you all the best, I really do and understand why it's happened.

Just a shame gazumping has made a come back.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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PositronicRay said:
I wish you all the best, I really do and understand why it's happened.

Just a shame gazumping has made a come back.
Yes, academic now but I wonder whether the same decision would have been made if the OP had offered the same or £1K less than the offer that was a proceeding sale.

I also wonder what will happen with the garage now. Popcorn time?

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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PositronicRay said:
I wish you all the best, I really do and understand why it's happened.

Just a shame gazumping has made a come back.
Agreed. Good news for the OP but not for trust in sellers. If I was the original buyers I would be spitting feathers. It's this reason why I favour early exchanges, even with some of the pitfalls.

fastbikes76

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2,450 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Totally accept gazumping its pretty crap, and no I wouldn't like it if it were done too me. The sole consolation for me is it wasn't about the money at all. They need to move desperately due to her MS deteriorating and have been messed around endlessly over the last 8 months. In all fairness I know they would have accepted our offer for LESS than other buyers who only made an offer 6 days ago AND still need to sell. The sole reason I offered the extra grand is my OCD would not let me deal with paying 359K, so a nice round 360 was what I offered hehe.

Still, a bummer for other guys and a hollow victory for me.

As for the garage, I will leave things be for a couple of years and review things once we've settle in (provided it doesn't all go tits up)